Talk:Fellini Satyricon

Max Born

It looks as if there needs to be a disambiguation page for Max Born, as the actor in Satyricon is not the famous physicist. If I knew how to fix this, I would. If nobody has done it by the time I find out, which may well be a long time, then I will do it. The Real Walrus 08:38, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Who played the older and larger Enotea?

Does anyone know if there's a reason she's not credited (unlike her younger version)? -62.219.97.118 (talk) 12:28, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Somebody updated the article to claim

Encolpio falls under a spell where his sexual prowess is restored to him by Enotea in the form of a monumental African goddess

I've never ever heard this statement before. Every site that reviews this part treats this woman like the older Enotea (whereas the younger version was young because she appeared in a flashback and not in the present). If it's a goddess and not just older Enotea, then there was no point to visit Enotea to begin with. The whole idea was to visit Enotea specifically because her curse (which had nothing to do with any goddess) may be the Encolpio's cure. Why did they to visit Enotea if it was the goddess they wanted to visit? It also adds a supernatural theme to the film.

But just in case the editor was actually right, did the goddess have a name and who played her? -62.219.97.118 (talk) 23:02, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Plot

The plot needs to be changed. The details are out of order and in some cases wrong. For example, the Caesar is killed AFTER Encolpio arrives and is married on Lichus' ship. The soldiers do not break up the marriage, but kill Lichus and take his stuff. The person who wrote the summary did not pay close attention to the details of the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.53.65 (talk) 23:12, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree but up to a point. I watched the film again on DVD today and then made various updates and corrections in the timeline, in particular, the Lichas episode. However, I confirm that, for the most part, attention to detail has been paid to the film's plot - and encourage anyone to improve on it.--Jumbolino (talk) 15:10, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Language

I believe that this was Fellini's only English-language film. Worth mentioning? Pemboid (talk) 19:59, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

   >> nope. It's in Italian  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ðœð (talk • contribs) 03:20, 18 October 2011 (UTC) 

LSD

It is a well known fact that Fellini began experimentation with LSD in the mid 60s, the psychedelic influence can be strongly seen in the set design and wardrobe. Satyricon is also a stylistic departure from his earlier films. In the beginning (04:55) Vernacchio dramatically places a small black tab onto his tongue and begins to scream, this is likely a representation of LSD and the subsequent adventures could be interpreted as a 'trip'. There is no question LSD played just as important of a role in this film as Jung's theory of the collective unconscious. -Ham — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.255.5 (talk) 05:43, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

General Matters

For such a fantastic film, I am disappointed by how little discussion there is. Anyway I wanted to sya that I edited the names to their correct spelling, declension etc. in keeping with English conventions of transliterating Roman names. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ðœð (talk • contribs) 03:23, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect Image

The image that is given for this film is incorrect. It shows the Satyricon released in 1968 not Fellini's film which came out in the following year 1969. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CF32:1410:7DFD:A51D:6EE2:9B98 (talk) 07:29, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 25 March 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move. As the other film, now titled Satyricon (1969 Polidoro film), was also released in 1969, the former title of this article will redirect to disambiguation. Cúchullain ^t/c 22:03, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

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Satyricon (1969 film) → Fellini Satyricon – WP:NATURAL. This seems to be the official title, and the three links at the bottom title it as such. Rob Sinden (talk) 09:27, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose even with some support in books very unnatural and not consistent. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:15, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

It seems to be almost universally referred to as Fellini Satyricon, so I don't understand your comment about inconsistency, and what do you mean by "unnatural"? --Rob Sinden (talk) 11:22, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

• Support: For what it's worth, the change could help differentiate the topic with the lesser-known Satyricon (1968 film), which IMDB lists as a 1969 film (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166788/), and its Wikipedia article says 1969 too! Personally, I thought this one was known as "Fellini's Satyricon", and that does show up very frequently in the "ngram" history, but not quite as frequently as "Fellini Satyricon". IMDB lists this one as "Fellini Satyricon". According to IMDB, Fellini wanted to use the title "Satyricon", but was not allowed to, because the other people registered the name first and a court decided in their favor, so Fellini had to change his title. It may seem unnatural, but "Fellini Satyricon" is apparently the title of this film. —BarrelProof (talk) 20:17, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

  P.S.: I have submitted an RM at Talk:Satyricon (1968 film). —BarrelProof (talk) 20:42, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks - with the fact the the other film is also a 1969 film, this means that whatever happens this article needs to be moved somewhere to fully disambiguate. Seems all the more reason to go for the WP:NATURAL option. --Rob Sinden (talk) 11:23, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

• Support with preference for the more natural sounding apostrophe "Fellini's Satyricon". E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:58, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

With both WP:COMMONNAME and the "official" title both supporting Fellini Satyricon, I can't see a justification for moving to a title with an apostrophe. --Rob Sinden (talk) 14:40, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

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