Talk:Football Association of Ireland
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Bias: Brendan Menton
editMy recent additions are largely based on Brendan Menton's book, which is very POV. Anyone who can redress the balance, please do. jnestorius(talk) 01:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Email vandals
editSo there is an email campaign currently going around to deface this article in light of Ireland's performace against San Marino last night. To those of you who plan on editing this page anonymously from work, please be aware that your IP address, which is unique to your workplace, is logged in the history section. Your boss may not appreciate that. Me mi mo 15:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- There are still going to be plenty of vandals. I'd suggest just locking the article entirely for a bit. --Jhealy 15:58, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
IP addresses can be unique to a work place but they are rarely unique to an individual's PC as they are typically translated when moving from their Local Area Network out on to the Internet. --193.95.153.82 14:39, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Unfair revert
editA paragraph I changed was reverted as part of a major revert, could it please be re-included in the article:
Following the respectable performance of the national team in the 2002 World Cup, the team's fortunes have subsequently declined, under the management of Mick McCarthy and his successors, first Brian Kerr, and then Steve Staunton. The FAI has been ascribed some of the blame by some commentators, in relation to any or all of these managers, for appointing him too hastily, or refusing to support him when criticised in the media, or for parting with him too quickly. Also neither Kerr nor Staunton had ever managed a senior football team before being brought into manage a (previously) successful international team, a practice unheard of in similar countries. Others have placed the blame elsewhere, with the managers themselves, or bad luck with injuries, or a simple decline in the quality of the players available.
- I object. Your change was to wiki Mick McCarthy, already linked earlier in the article, and to add the sentence:
- Also neither Kerr nor Staunton had ever managed a senior football team before being brought into manage a (previously) successful international team, a practice unheard of in similar countries
- which, to my mind, reads as "the FAI should have known they wouldn't be good enough", which is POV on 4 counts (anti-FAI, anti-Kerr, anti-Staunton, definition of "successful"). It's also misleading to call it "unheard of": Michel Platini's first manager's job was France, Jürgen Klinsmann's was Germany. You could argue they're not "similar countries", but the point is still feeble. jnestorius(talk) 17:05, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Give the job to Roddy Collins. Couldnt do a whole lot worse than the present incumbant!
- Reasonable assesment of Staunton and the FAI i feel...
CEO of the FAI
editAnyone want to add in the info box the current CEO of the FAI (John Delaney), he seems to have more power and more high profile than the president.
Fair use rationale for Image:Ireland FA.gif
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National Team
editDoes Wikipedia have a specific entry covering the Irish national team, their results, etc? Millbanks 08:16, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
IFA & Southern Players
editRemoved sentence claiming IFA only ever selected four Southern players per game before WWI. This is incorrect. In the 3-0 win against England in 1914 the IFA XI featured at least six Southern born players (Bill McConnell, Alex Craig, Patrick O'Connell, Harold Hampton, Billy Gillespie and Bill Lacey. With the addition of Val Harris and Louis Bookman the 1914 Ireland squad of sixteen players featured at least eight Southerners. [1] Djln
Irish name
editShouldn't the FAI's name in Irish be more like "Cumann Sacair na hÉireann"? If I'm right in believing, "peil" means Gaelic football rather than soccer. Bluebird207 (talk) 20:06, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Ireland v. France 2009 controversy
editBefore adding any questionable or NPOV material regarding the "handball from Gaul" (as termed by some news agencies), it's probably best to allow FIFA to issue a final statement on the matter. Yes, I know, Henri himself said he did it, and it was the referee's job to catch him, and the referee didn't. But the matter isn't done yet. Let's see how it plays out. --Alan (talk) 18:49, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Name etc...
editAs of 30 May 2011, the piece says the following "The IFA did not feel obliged to refrain from selecting Free State players for its international team. The name Football Association of Ireland was readopted by the FAIFS in 1936, in anticipation of the change of the state's name in the pending Constitution of Ireland...".
I query that. As per the Names of the Irish state article which has lots of references for this, "In May 1937, when the President of the Executive Council, Éamon de Valera presented the first draft of the Constitution to the parliamentary committee on the Constitution, Article 4 simply provided: "The name of the State is Éire".There was no reference to Ireland at all. Opposition politicians immediately proposed that the word Ireland be substituted for the word Éire throughout the English text. Ultimately the name Ireland was included."
In short, if the FAIFS changed its name to the FAI in 1936, how could this move have had anything to do with a Constitution that at the time did not include "Ireland" in its name?
Irish translation of "Football Association of Ireland"
editThe Irish language version of the FAI is given as "Cumann Peile na hÉireann". Does anyone have a reference for where this translation has been used? It is an incorrect translation as "Peil" is the Irish word for Gaelic Football. The translation of "football" for present purposes is "sacar", and therefore the correct title should be "Cumann Sacair na hÉireann". JD2 (talk) 15:42, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
- http://www.fai.ie/fai/fai-headquarters.html added as ref. "Football Association of Ireland, Cumann Peile na hEireann,
National Sports Campus, Abbotstown, Dublin 15" from the association themselves. Murry1975 (talk) 19:11, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Update of Article
editThe article is ok overall, but I think it requires some expansion in some areas, such as it seems to stop and not progress beyond Trapattoni's reign, nor does it mention that part of his wage was funded by businessman Denis O'Brien (as is the current Irish manager Martin O'Neill's wage). I think the article should mention that as of 2014 the FAI is in debt of €50 million (see here) and that the FAI expect to miss their deadline to pay this debt by 2020 (see here). The television rights controversy should also be expanded to include that the Irish government had to intervene and place qualifying matches on free to air legislation as was granted through EU legislation (see here) and that the FAI sought from the Irish government to compensate them the loss in money they would have incurred as a result this law (see here). It might also be a requirement that over half the counties in Ireland are not represented in the FAI's League of Ireland two divisions and the number of teams that have went in to administration over the last few years. Finally I think it is important following recent revelations that it is documented that the FAI received €5 Million from FIFA following Henry's handball that resulted in Ireland's exit of the 2010 World Cup (see here) and which John Delaney is refusing to answer questions about (see here) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8084:2580:2480:58FF:D896:C12E:B69C (talk) 18:24, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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UPDATE ME
editMajor work needed in wake of Delaney-gate. Bogger (talk) 09:10, 24 January 2020 (UTC)