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Split proposal

This article should split out the information relating to American / gridiron football, as injuries and information relating to gridiron football is completely differently than football (soccer). Natg 19 (talk) 22:43, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. The only commonality is the name. The North American football game has more in common with Rugby and it makes no sense to lump it in with soccer. Meters (talk) 20:11, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

• Support. Hmlarson (talk) 21:47, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
• Support. Geoff Canyon (talk) 07:59, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
• Support though there's not enough information here about the other codes of football. VEO^onefive 12:42, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
• Support. Danstarr69 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:06, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
• Support With a 'lol' about how insanely stupid it is. Anonywiki (talk) 20:34, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Split? Just delete, it's valueless in its current state. A mish-mash of soccer and whatever was on the mind of the editor at the time. Plus these gems "Once signed, some learn to play better football" and "In science, causes for this phenomenon have been proposed but never confirmed" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.194.232 (talk) 08:13, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

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lead images

Why do we have two images of players, and why are we using these images?

file:Cristiano Ronaldo 2017.jpg is of a well-known player, and is a good image, but not as cropped in this article. The article is not about the particular football player, so there is no point in cropping the image to show only his head and shoulders. If we are going to use this image at least use the whole image so that we can see that he is actually a football player. It appears that it has been cropped so as to display at the same height as file:Lionel Messi.png, which shows two players fighting for the ball. Judging by the caption, the intent of this image is to highlight another well-known player, Lionel Messi. Of course, the article isn't about him or the game of football either, and we don't even specify which player he is. It's a small, busy image and in my opinion is simply not a good image for this article.

This article used to have just a generic image of a male player file:Football Player- Ashleigh Hopkins (Swansea City AFC - Plymouth Argyle FC) The FA UEFA 'A' Licence Coach 2013-04-19 20-52.jpg, and then a second image of a female player file:Football against poverty 2014 - Marta.jpg was added. Several months ago user:Lezt naz changed these two images to the current ones [1] with no discussion. The user has no other Wikipedia edits so is not likely to see this, but does anyone else support keeping the current images? I'd like to switch back to the original two images. Meters (talk) 21:38, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

You should be asking why every image is a soccer player. Then you should be asking, why does this article exist? A football player plays football. If, for some reason, any further explanation is required, it belongs within the appropriate type of football's page(s). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.150.79.160 (talk) 00:49, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

So, you have no useful comment on this thread? If you want to put the article up for deletion then take it to AFD. Don't tell me that I should be taking a 17-year-old article to AFD. Meters (talk) 01:27, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Done. Someone will revert it of course, but at least you can't say I didn't try — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.150.79.160 (talk) 11:04, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Redirecting a long-standing article with no discussion is not a good idea, and is not the same as putting it up for deletion. You were correctly undone.

Since no-one has objected I'm going to restore the original images..Meters (talk) 08:00, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

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• Cristiano Ronaldo Real Madrid CF vs Espanyol.jpg

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Why?

Why does this page exist? Between dicdef concerns, inanities like the "some learn to play better football", the generalized statements that really only apply to particular codes, this is a mess.--Khajidha (talk) 12:54, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

It is complete dreck, and I redirected it to football last year, but mindlessly reverted as is the wont of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.150.71.154 (talk) 20:16, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

I've just had a giggle reading it... I reckon it should be preserved for all-time, it is hilariously bad. I can't decide which is more likely, was it written by children or by non-English speakers? The bit about penalties just plonked randomly in the middle is a standout.

Longevity and mortality

The subject matter needs probably a specific WP article not to exceed the maximum lenght admitted. Clinical studies with highly extended geographic and temporal coverage highlighted abnormalities in the number of deaths caused by car accidents and cardiac diseases among active and retired professional footballers. It has a WP:relevance of content.

At the moment, it isn't cited any research in respect of the incidence of car accidents in the athletes' population. Suicides in North America didn't provide a statistical relevance in relation to other classes of occupations (source: [2]). That aspect couldn't be true for a more disaggregated analysis of the sample. Here, it isn't provided any comparative study between an international cohort of football professionals -both active and retired- (e.g. the World Footballers' Union) and the general population, though it would be helpful to have one available to be cited. At least for countries for which there exist certified national data on the resident population detailed for age.

Not so easy is to find statistical data related to the overall lifespan longevity of professional footballers detailed for their decade of birth. Not so easy is to find the number of deaths in rapport to total number of professional active and retired professional footballers, even for a closed and limited set of people like the one present in a specific organization (World Footballers' Union, National Football League, etc.). This would be useful to make more understandable the causes of death and further demographic details.Philosopher81sp (talk) 11:06, 12 September 2020 (UTC) Hope a discussion longer than usual shall provide the needy data to improve the WP article.

Semi-professional definition

$148,693 average annual salary counts as semi-professional? Surely the MLS counts as a fully professional league? Mn1548 (talk) 10:32, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Upcoming talent.

I want to add to the intro about there being constant up and coming talent such as certain young players like eg Charlie Leahy would this be ok? Idkdonthuntmedown (talk) 10:52, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

I say: Go nuts. Chuck in a few more random body parts too. Couldn't make this article any dumber.