Talk:Force-feeding

a medical complaint

This page simply illustrates why Wikipedia has become an unreliable source. Gavage also refers to a method of feeding that involves use of a tube through the sinus or throat for patients who are unable to feed themselves. This is a surgical term and has nothing to do with torture or animal rights. Please include this alternate definition. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.24.143.228 (talk • contribs) 22:04, 2007 January 24

This complaint is correct. The term "gavage" definitely should not re-direct to "force-feeding" with all of its negative connotation. Gavage is a legitimate medical treatment for patients who cannot feed themselves orally, including premature infants. Sallenmd (talk) 17:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I also concur. I changed the redirect of "gavage" to "feeding_tube" as that term has a simple, direct correlation to "gavage" as opposed to this article's connotation. However, as this article is relevant to the topic, I also added a link from "feeding_tube" to here. --Fuzzynurse (talk) 15:51, 17 November 2009 (UTC)fuzzynurse

Does it make sense to mix force-feeding of prisoners with the force-feeding of domestic animals?

Should human force-feeding (e.g. suffragettes) and the animal-rearing practice really be on the same page? --Dpr 17:12, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

In a "force-feeding" article, I believe so. Whether or not there should be a separate "force-feeding of prisoners" article is another matter, and, even so, I don't think such separate articles would be necessary. I removed the paragraph about Falun Gong. If, as it is claimed, force-feeding is practised to torture prisoners, rather than to feed them, the linked website source should substantiate that claim. However, if you would care to look for yourself, you'd see that every example given by the Falun Dafa Information Center involved the words "hunger strike", so it's evidently the case that force-feeding was used to "counter (self-)starvation", rather than for "other purposes". Given the source of this information, the Falun Dafa Information Center, and the fact that EVERY "victim" of force-feeding has claimed that there was a degree of sadism and torture, it's safe to say that this is little more than anti-communist propoganda. --213.121.151.146 07:41, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

It seems to me the references to Gitmo are NOT NPOV. They are onesided based solely on one lawyers repeating what one prisoner said are not fact based info about Force-feeding in general. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdcb (talk • contribs) 10:43, 2006 October 13

Force-feeding of the Guantanamo captives is documented in tables published by the DoD in March 2007. When examined, in detail, some captives started having their weight recorded, weekly, or daily, rather than monthly or quarterly, when the hunger strike started. Some captives had their weights recorded multiple times per day -- during the hunger strike -- and those multiple weigh-ins show large fluctuations -- sometimes over a dozen pounds. The DoD started strapping the captives' into "restraint chairs" during and after the force-feeding in January. One captive suddenly started gaining three or four pounds a day. How many litres of nutrient would one have to stuff into a captive for him to gain that kind of weight? Burning one pound of fat consumes 3600 calories. 2000 or 3000 calories is the daily maintenance amount for a sedentary person. To gain three pounds a day the captives would have to be consuming over 10,000 calories a day. Geo Swan (talk) 19:26, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

• JTF-GTMO (2006-03-16). "Heights, weights, and in-processing dates". Department of Defense. Retrieved 2008-12-25. mirror
• JTF-GTMO (2007-03-16). "Measurements of Heights and Weights of Individuals Detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba". Department of Defense. Retrieved 2008-12-22. mirror
• JTF-GTMO (2007-03-16). "Measurements of Heights and Weights of Individuals Detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba: ISNs 2-57" (PDF). Department of Defense. Retrieved 2008-12-22. mirror
• JTF-GTMO (2007-03-16). "Measurements of Heights and Weights of Individuals Detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba: ISNs 58-121" (PDF). Department of Defense. Retrieved 2008-12-22. mirror
• JTF-GTMO (2007-03-16). "Measurements of Heights and Weights of Individuals Detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba: ISNs 122-185" (PDF). Department of Defense. Retrieved 2008-12-22. mirror
• JTF-GTMO (2007-03-16). "Measurements of Heights and Weights of Individuals Detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba: ISNs 186-251" (PDF). Department of Defense. Retrieved 2008-12-22. mirror
• JTF-GTMO (2007-03-16). "Measurements of Heights and Weights of Individuals Detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba: ISNs 252-322" (PDF). Department of Defense. Retrieved 2008-12-22. mirror
• JTF-GTMO (2007-03-16). "Measurements of Heights and Weights of Individuals Detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba: ISNs 323-494" (PDF). Department of Defense. Retrieved 2008-12-22. mirror
• JTF-GTMO (2007-03-16). "Measurements of Heights and Weights of Individuals Detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba: ISNs 495-575" (PDF). Department of Defense. Retrieved 2008-12-22. mirror
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• JTF-GTMO (2007-03-16). "Measurements of Heights and Weights of Individuals Detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba: ISNs 680-838" (PDF). Department of Defense. p. page 46. Retrieved 2008-12-22. mirror
• JTF-GTMO (2007-03-16). "Measurements of Heights and Weights of Individuals Detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba: ISNs 839-1011" (PDF). Department of Defense. Retrieved 2008-12-22. mirror
• JTF-GTMO (2007-03-16). "Measurements of Heights and Weights of Individuals Detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba: ISNs 1012-10023" (PDF). Department of Defense. Retrieved 2008-12-22. mirror

Wikisource link

The link to Wikisource was removed with the comment:

This change removes a biased anthrocentric link.

I can't make head or tail of this objection. The link is a historical document relating to force-feeding of prisoners. How is that anthrocentric? —Celithemis 09:47, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Irish hunger strikes

Force feeding was never used on prisoners with Special Category Status in Northern Ireland. To tbe best of my knowledge the only times it was used on Irish republican prisoners during the Troubles was on protesting prisoners in England (SCS only applied to prisoners in Northern Ireland), who wanted transferring to Northern Ireland and/or political status. It wasn't used during the 1980 or 1981 strikes for political reasons, it was felt it would attract too much adverse publicity. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 21:38, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Psychiatric use

Is there any evidence that psychiatric hospitals use enteral feeding with patients who refuse to eat? Surely a drip feed is used in preference? Itsmejudith (talk) 08:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

The problem with drip/Iv feeds involve Iv sites and needles etc that patients can and do pull out and remove. This poses a problem for normal medication administration as well as for the purpose of sustenance. I think in circumstances like this a sedation would be administered and as you say a drip feed utilised as a first point of intervention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.55.20.102 (talk) 00:53, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Not only that, but parenteral feeding ("drip feed") has many adverse effects on the liver and other organs and should never be used unless the GI system cannot be used to provide adequate nutrition. Sallenmd (talk) 17:31, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Dubious

The claim that in Egypt geese are force-fed is very likely untrue. The use of tubes to feed animals is unknown and expensive in Egypt. There is a very likely confusion between over-feeding and force-feeding. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 00:39, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Looking up تزغيت on google, it appears to indeed be force feeding, so I'm removing the dubious marker. Av = λv (talk) 03:43, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

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"Force-feeding" of babies

I suggest that this section does not belong in this article. Gavage of infants who lack the suckle reflex is legitimate medical treatment and does not merit the opprobrium generally given to force-feeding. Kent G. Budge (talk) 22:02, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Why is euthanasia cross-linked?

Self explanatory, why is this cross-linked with the article on “The Right To Die” 2601:249:380:69F0:D934:2220:BAED:C4FA (talk) 03:43, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Canada

I have added an updated citation from the Government of Canada's Correctional Services website which contains the legal policy which clearly outlines how the Canadian government retains the right to intervene after a hunger striking inmate loses consciousness, which is generally inevitably what will medically take place. I also have removed the citation needed addition as it was illogical given that the Canadian government clearly supports the force-feeding of inmates as per the aforementioned document. Questioning their policy stand with regard to the Declaration of Tokyo would be like questioning Saddam Hussein's support of the Chemical Weapons Convention. Ridiculous. Given that the Canadian government clearly supports the force-feeding of inmates it logically follows that they reject the Declaration of Tokyo. Daystrom (talk) 22:24, 6 August 2023 (UTC)