Talk:Force Motors

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 17:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Article proposed for deletion

Hi, Mostly advertising speech, article tagged since June 2017. I informed the principal contributors. Regards, Yann (talk) 08:49, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

I don't really see anything problematic, except for a few easily removed words (flagship, iconic) in the intro.  Mr.choppers | ✎  17:35, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

I do agree the article does need rewriting I think but that's not a reason to delete it, It should simply be fixed. –Davey2010^Talk 18:02, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

I fixed a fair amount. There seem to be one or two editors (these people for instance: Mohsina Faiz, RSurendra) who keep restoring puffery. Much of it has already been removed in the past.  Mr.choppers | ✎  18:17, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

The firm does appear noteworthy, quite clearly exceeds GNG as it seems. The editors mentioned above are almost certainly connected to the firm, either through admission, activity or 'other'. I have depuffed the article further, issued warnings (for whatever good that will do) and have added to watchlist so that future attempts by the PR machine can be quickly identified. Rayman60 (talk) 23:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Some Proposed Changes required on page

Force Motors Ltd is an Indian multinational automotive manufacturing company, based in Pune.

“add text after Pune- “was established in 1958 by Shri N. K. Firodia with the vision to provide affordable commercial transport for the masses by harnessing the best available technology and offering economical, reliable and efficient products”.

References supporting change:Force Motors: Reports, Company History, Directors Report, Chairman's Speech, Auditors Report of Force Motors - NDTV

Remove “From 1958 until 2005” The company was known as Bajaj Tempo Motors because it originated as a joint venture between Bachraj Trading Ltd and Germany's Tempo. The company is known for brands like the Tempo, Matador, Minidor, Traveller, Gurkha and Urbania. Over the last five decades, it has partnered with global manufacturers such as Daimler, ZF, Bosch, and VW. "Remove “Traton and MAN"

Force Motors is India’s largest van maker. The company is completely vertically integrated, making its own components for the entire product range. Force Motors has a nationwide dealer presence. The company also exports to various countries in Africa, Latin America, SAARC and ASEAN countries, Gulf and Germany.

“add text after Germany- “Force Motors is the flagship of the company group headed by Dr Abhay Firodia which has 9 manufacturing units across the country and a 10,000-strong workforce.”

References supporting change:Meet Abhay Firodia, Chairman, Force Motors Ltd: Know about his business empire, journey & net worth - Lifestyle News | The Financial Express

The Force Is With Firodia - Forbes India

Force Motors ranked 359th (2020) on the Fortune India 500 companies list. Santoshwankhede (talk) 10:12, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

 Declined. It isn't entirely clear what needs to be changed. Please follow the instructions given at Template:Edit COI and follow the format recommended. Or try the Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard.

Some general advice:

• The lead section of the article should not introduce information that isn't found in the body text. The purpose of the lead section is to summarize the body, providing a brief overview.
• If you ask to remove information that is already cited to a source, you need to justify its removal, not simply request removal.
• Requests need to be specific. "Add after Germany" means nothing when there are multiple instances of the word "Germany" in the article.
• Requests to add statements that are promotional in tone will be rejected. Marketing language like "vision" and unsubstantiated puffery such as "economical, reliable and efficient" will always be rejected. I note that the financial report you cite doesn't include such language.

@Santoswankhede: You are welcome to try again. This looks like it should have been split into multiple requests, if the edits requested are to different sections. Try Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard next time. ~Anachronist (talk) 14:11, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Edit request (November 10)

Thank you for your advice so far, I would like to make the following edit requests.

1. Add the following to the history section. He is already listed as founder in the infobox but not in the history section. This reference could also be used for the infobox if one is required.

Force Motors was founded in 1957 by N.K. Firodia.

2. Add the following about its Chennai facility to the history section.

In July 2015, Force Motors completed the construction of an autopart manufacturing facility in Chennai, India. The facility allowed Force to assemble up to 20,000 engines annually for BMW. Both four and six-cylinder engines would be assembled there.

3. Add the following financial information to the history section.

Following the completion of the Chennai site, a third of Force's revenue would be generated by the manufacturing of autoparts for German car companies.

Santoshwankhede (talk) 16:04, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

References

Reply 11-NOV-2023

  Edit request partially implemented  

1. Y The information concerning N.K. Firodia was added to the History section.
2. Y The information concerning the Chennai site was added to the history section.
3. N The information concerning expected revenue generated at the Chennai site was not added, as it contains speculation about the future (e.g., "a third of Force's revenue would be generated by the manufacturing of autoparts,". (See WP:CRYSTALBALL.)

Regards,  Spintendo  00:03, 12 November 2023 (UTC)