Talk:Forest railway

Definition and reference dispute about Russian section

Moved the whole Russian section to the Talk:Forest railway page - Contributor gives unreferenced info and while adressing this issue he is contradicting himself and even starts expanding the challenged section.

User: R7500 created three pages concerning 750mm narrow gauge railways in russia around 5 / 6 august:

• Apsheronsk narrow-gauge railway mentioning: It is the largest mountain narrow-gauge railway in Russia (...) . It carries freight (including: wood, food, and postal services) and passengers including a train which transports children to school.
• Kudemskaya narrow-gauge railway mentioning: It is used to transport passengers, principal cargoes include: foodstuffs, postal service and fuel, and as well as the export of timber.
• Alapayevsk narrow-gauge railway mentioning: is the largest narrow-gauge railway in Russia (...) Current operation includes passenger traffic and general goods movement. The narrow gauge railway operates a sceduled Passenger Service

All three articles lack citations as a reference.

After creation of these three articles, User: R7500 added links to these three articles on the following pages: Narrow gauge railway, Feldbahn and Forest railway.

Based on the information in the articles the traffic operations are not limited to wood transport only (see above) and were not laid in a light portable rail type. I removed R7500 contributions from the Feldbahn and Forest railway pages stating that these three railways resemble common carrier railways.

R7500 undid my deletion on the Forest railway page with reason: "Read carefully, this forest railway" and next edit commented " Can be attributed to two groups: narrow-gauge (standard 750mm) and the forest railways, this is the direction of roads.)".

A discussion with R7500 started on the User talk:R7500 page, ignoring the information he provided himself in the initial three articles, and repeatedly submitting photo's and a video which were intended to proof that it is a forest railway indeed.

During these discussions R7500 started adding even more narrow gauge railways with links to Russian sites, also without proper citations in English which I cannot verify properly while photographs from google pictures indicate a common carrier railway.

Conclusion:

• R7500 gives information in tree articles (general freight and passengers; mountain railway) which he later contradicts by stating it is a forest railway (only).
• If this information is to be maintained on the forest railway page, good references have to be provided, this also applies for the initial articles.
• To overcome this definition issue, R7500 should or could move the russian contents from the Forest railway page to a page like Narrow gauge railways in Russia--Aaron-Tripel (talk) 15:20, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

The removed contents

Russia

• Apsheronsk narrow-gauge railway, It is the largest mountain narrow-gauge railway in Russia and the former Soviet Union.
• Alapaevsk narrow-gauge railway, Is the largest narrow-gauge railway in Russia and is one of the largest narrow-gauge railways in the world.
• Loyga narrow-gauge railway, Russia forest railway, Arkhangelsk Oblast - Loyga
• Udimskaya narrow-gauge railway, Russia forest railway, Arkhangelsk Oblast - Udimskaya
• Zelenniki narrow-gauge railway, Russia forest railway, Arkhangelsk Oblast - Zelenniki
• Ivakshanskaya narrow-gauge railway, Russia forest railway, Arkhangelsk Oblast - Ivakshanskaya
• Kharitonov narrow-gauge railway, Russia forest railway, Arkhangelsk Oblast - Kharitonov
• Oparinskaya narrow-gauge railway, Russia forest railway, Kirov Oblast - Oparinskaya
• Kobrinskaya narrow-gauge railway, Russia forest railway, Kirov Oblast - Kobrinskaya
• Kobrinskaya narrow-gauge railway, Russia forest railway, Kirov Oblast - Kobrinskaya

--Aaron-Tripel (talk) 15:20, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Aaron-Tripel

Thank you, you are not helping and you're doing worse. With such a negative, delete. Thank you for your attention. I am not contradicting myself, look closely. Goodbye. — Preceding unsigned comment added by R7500 (talk • contribs) 15:37, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Merger proposal

• Support Merger The Logging railroad article appears to represent American nomenclature for a Forest railway. Since this article is well developed, while the Logging railroad article remains without reference citations; I suggest merging material from that article into a North American section of this article and replacing the Logging railroad article with a redirect to this article.Thewellman (talk) 18:49, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
• Support for reasons cited above. Entirely appropriate to retain US nomenclature for N American section. --Bermicourt (talk) 20:56, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Logging railroads in British Columbia - resource

I found this excellent little history of logging "shows" (railway networks) in southwestern British Columbia today; material on it can be used to add t o various stream and region and town articles; none of the companies listed have wiki articles, though some are notable and worth an article in and of themselves. Seen a few books in print around BC when I was t here about the Harrison Lake ones...this has some I'd never heard of but are obvious when you look back and know the area (I'm from around there).Skookum1 (talk) 14:53, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Is it a Shay or is it a Willamette?

There is a photo in the article of a geared locomotive, easily identifiable because there is a small girl in the door of the cab. It is labelled as a Shay. I believe it is a Willamette based on the following: (1) it has three cylinders and Number 3 cylinder does not cut into the cab. On a Shay, Number 3 cuts into the cab. (2) the cylinders all face out - on a Shay, Number 3 faces in. (3) There are shields over the spur gears. These are not present on a Shay. Is it a Willie or what is the story here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.103.35.72 (talk) 17:09, 21 April 2017 (UTC)