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editDidn't somebody at Treasury issue a $0.05 note with his own face on it, leading to a rule "no living people on the money"? Trekphiler 23:26, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- Got my answer, except somebody conflated (or confused) "practice barred by law", 'cause it was because he did it it was later prohibited, IIRC. Trekphiler (talk) 06:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Wrong Subject
editTreasury (Coin) Note is used by numismatists to refer to the notes authorized by the Sherman Silver Purchase Act. However the contents of this article describes Fractional or Postage Currency of the Civil War era - a different thing entirely. --LondonYoung (talk) 16:14, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- This was fixed --LondonYoung (talk) 18:48, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Upgraded Images
editI substituted higher resolution/size/quality images in the gallery section. If this is a problem, please let me know. Thanks -- Godot13 (talk) 06:20, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Convert to List
editI would like to convert the existing start-class article into a List (with the goal of becoming a Featured List). I would add to the existing text, at least double the number of references, and add a table containing a complete typeset of fractional currency (high resolution 800dpi images) from the Smithsonian Institution. Any objections? - Godot13 (talk) 22:47, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Don't forget to also show some love to the related Postal Currency article --LondonYoung (talk) 15:05, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- Of course not... I was thinking they should be merged since they are in essence different points on the same continuum.-Godot13 (talk) 17:23, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- Merge completed, images of complete type set added in tabular list format.-Godot13 (talk) 22:46, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Request for re-assessment
editTo re-classify as a list-class article and re-evaluate importance level. Thanks-Godot13 (talk) 02:22, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Requested move 21 August 2015
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: not moved. sovereign°sentinel (contribs) 07:45, 29 August 2015 (UTC) (non-admin closure)
Fractional currency (United States) → Fractional currency – Fractional currency is currently a redirect here. There is no other article about "fractional currency" on Wikipedia. So therefore I don't think there is any danger of confusion and the disambiguation is superfluous. JIP | Talk 18:32, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:PRECISE. There are other notable topics that the phrase "fractional currency" may refer to. This article is specifically only about the United States currency and doesn't discuss the general meaning of "fractional currency". Khestwol (talk) 20:58, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- But my point is, there are no other articles on Wikipedia named "fractional currency", thus the disambiguation is neeldess. And I don't see why we should pre-emptively disambiguate just in case some other article named "fractional currency" might appear in a few decades, give or take. JIP | Talk 21:19, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Or, rather than ambiguous titles, perhaps we could use an alternative, clearer title? "Debt-free currency in the United States". Khestwol (talk) 21:35, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Also suggest move to "United States fractional currency" per WP:NATURAL. Khestwol (talk) 21:55, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Or, rather than ambiguous titles, perhaps we could use an alternative, clearer title? "Debt-free currency in the United States". Khestwol (talk) 21:35, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- But my point is, there are no other articles on Wikipedia named "fractional currency", thus the disambiguation is neeldess. And I don't see why we should pre-emptively disambiguate just in case some other article named "fractional currency" might appear in a few decades, give or take. JIP | Talk 21:19, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose - A significant number of countries have issued fractional paper currency. This article deals with one country comprehensively. At least one more fractional currency article will likely emerge before the end of the year. Also, please see the FLC discussion for why the name was change from Fractional currency to its current title.--Godot13 (talk) 22:08, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose WP:SYSTEMATICBIAS and WP:PRECISE This is not the U.S. Wikipedia, we cover topics outside the USA as well. Suggest United States fractional currency instead per Khestwol. Fractional currencies existed outside the U.S. as well -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:23, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- Support United States fractional currency for reasons stated above. ONR (talk) 06:56, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- Comment- A cursory review of the Standard Catalog of World Paper Money indicates that the following countries (at the very least) issued fractional paper currency: Angola, Argentina, Bolivia, Cape Verde, Chile, Colombia, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Dominion of Canada, French Indo-China, Israel, Mexico, Mozambique, Nicaragua, Norway, Philippines, and Sarawak. Add to that countries that currently or historically used the British pound, creating paper shilling notes (including at the very least): Bahamas, Bermuda, British West Africa, Canada, Cook Islands, Cyprus, East Africa, Falkland Islands, Fiji, Gibraltar, Gilbert and Ellice Islands, Great Britain, Grenada, Guernsey, Ireland (Republic and Northern), States of Jersey, Malta, Nigeria, South Africa, and Tonga.
With this many possibilities, doesn’t it make sense to have the disambiguation format of Fractional currency (xxxxx) instead of naming any future article(s) differently by starting with the name of the country? It would be cleaner in the future, IMO...--Godot13 (talk) 09:37, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose: per other oppose arguments but especially Godot13's comments above. ww2censor (talk) 10:56, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose per other oppose arguments, especially WP:SYSTEMATICBIAS and WP:PRECISE am neutral about Country subject or Subject (Country).Pincrete (talk) 16:36, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: Normally I would be the one to mention "this is not the U.S. Wikipedia" when talking about an article related to the U.S. But this move request is made for the sake of logic, not because of any geographic bias. It just feels stupid to have "foo" redirect to "foo (bar)" when there is no other article named "foo" on Wikipedia. (Names used as examples only.) And also, saying that we could possibly have articles about other fractional currencies far in the future seems to be nothing but pre-emptive disambiguation, which I remember seeing Wikipedia should try to avoid. If we ever make an article about another fractional currency, the articles can simply be renamed again. JIP | Talk 18:34, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- It fails WP:PRECISE being not precise enough to identify the topic of the article, and 'US frac cur' would not be using parenthetical disambiguation, being a full title, the alternatively proposed title. -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:52, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- It seems like a pointless exercise to move this article now and then have to revert the name when a new article for another country is created. Why bother in the first place? 10:16, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- We could create a new stub article at Fractional currency that deals with the general topic to solve that issue. Though there might be complaints about having a stub article at a base location. -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 04:08, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- It seems like a pointless exercise to move this article now and then have to revert the name when a new article for another country is created. Why bother in the first place? 10:16, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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Intro tag added, as the lede does not say what the currency is.
editI've readded the intro tag, as this article does not explain what the currency is in the introduction. --Dmol (talk) 03:29, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Dmol: I've qualified the lead's description to explain that they're "low-denomination banknotes of the United States dollar". How's this? — RAVENPVFF · talk · 14:22, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
Signatures
editWho were the signatories on the bills?
The caption of the first picture states that Francis E. Spinner "autograph"ed the bills featuring his likeness.
I doubt that that to be true/correct.
- Due to the large numbers of bills printed, regardless of denomination, it was standard practice to have numerous "secretaries" signing the bills.
- As such, it is basically impossible for any of the named signatories to have actually signed any bill.
Therefore, any signature on a bill cannot be called an "autograph."
However, someone should really look into this to make sure and verify, one way or the other, about who actually signed all those bills that were printed. 2600:8800:784:8F00:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 01:02, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
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