Talk:Frogger

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Mobile Ports

shouldn't the ports section be updated with the ports for mobile devices? I own the iPhone version and I'd bet the is or will shortly be an Android version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.19.46.77 (talk) 17:39, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Intellectual property dispute

There was a Game Gear version of Frogger that was finished, but never released. I know this because I own the prototype. What I was wondering is this... did Sega and Konami get into a legal battle over the Frogger intellectual property? It would explain why this finished game never hit store shelves, and why the arcade game Sega had based on Frogger was released with the name "Ribbit." M.Neko

Was the game really meant to be called "Highway Crossing Frog"? I thought that was just a joke in an MTV skit of 'The Matrix'.Smurrayinchester 09:16, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

And was it literally "Highway Crossing Frog" without any hyphens? 'Cause that would have left it open for an awesome tagline: "Don't Cross the Frog!" If someone can confirm the typographical error, a "[sic]" mark could be added. 198.183.6.214 (talk) 19:10, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Preppie

One of the greatest Frogger clones was Russ Wetmore's Preppie. http://www.atarihq.com/reviews/atari8/preppie.html

Cleaning up Ports section

A bit of what I just did:

- I'm removing the POV that Parker Bros inadvertently neglected to scoop up magnetic-media rights to Frogger due to some kind of "innocence," though I understand the intended purpose of this line; Parker Bros. intentionally released only cartridge products, working with other companies (including Sierra on Frogger) who handled magnetic releases. (Though it is true that the Starpath release was one that was unintended... I'll try to work that in somehow.)

- Adding other licensed ports, along with country of release. (There are some odd-ball licensed releases-- who'd imagine a Timex/Sinclair release?)

- Putting licensed ports into some kind of order. Student Driver 17:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

You may have missed one; I'm sure I remember playing Frogger on a BBC Micro when I was at school. Daibhid C 22:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I left off non-licensed ports. A company named A&F Software released a version actually called "Frogger" (for BBC and Spectrum), but from what I've been able to tell, it's unlicensed. I'm sure I missed some conversions somewhere, though; if nothing else, there's a huge time-gap in potential Japanese releases. Student Driver 02:59, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

If anyone wants to add additional ports, please double-check that the port is licensed; I just did research on the Sharp MZ-700 release that was added a few months ago, and it turned out to be another unauthorized clone. To avoid stepping on toes, I moved it into the paragraph describing such unauthorized ports, but I'm wondering if the article is really in need of such a listing-- surely not every single Frogger clone that's been released is notable. Student Driver (talk) 19:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I removed the new 'unofficial clones' section that was basically a list of every clone released for the ZX Spectrum (plus a couple of others). The most notable ZX Spectrum, BBC Micro etc clones are already listed in the 'ports and clones' section. There were probably hundreds of clones if you add every one from every system and it really isn't necessary or notable (it happened to all popular arcade games of the time). I was going to add any notable ones to the list but there weren't really any. The Horace Goes Skiing game is notable but is not a Frogger clone - it just has a road-crossing section as part of the game. I also added back the mention of the Timex Sinclair 1000 / TRS-80 releases by Cornsoft which were officially licenced by Sega. Perhaps the official ports bit should be expanded to make it clear which systems did get official versions and how many companies had the licence. I also took the 2600 release date out of the infobox which is just about the Arcade version - what makes the 2600 version so special?!Retro junkie (talk) 23:09, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Why are four screen shots about to be deleted?

Why are four screenshots from various game consoles about to be deleted? O_o --Logomachist 03:11, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Dubious fact

I removed this which was hastily added to the references section:

Mr. James Slone and Mr. Scott Lewis won the annual Frogger tournament in Columbus, Ohio. They both took home $12,500 each. Two sixth graders from Decatur, Ohio won second prize.

It was added by a new user, Nyk78raider. I removed it because:

1. It's in the wrong section. It's not a reference, it's a fact.
2. It has no reference; there is no way given to verify the tidbit.

So it remains out until some user can provide a reference to substantiate the claim. It's also be nice if it were fleshed out a bit more. And it needs to be added to the correct location in the article. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 18:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Frogger watch

A green plastic LCD wristwatch that incorporated a very playable Frogger game appeared in 1984. This was kind of amazing at the time, if not also a bit bizarre. I will leave this to the more knowledgeable to decide whether this is worth including in Ports/Self-Contained. Jeffreykopp (talk) 14:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

"Freeway"

I would really like to know more about this "Freeway" game that Frogger apparently was based on. Unfortunately, that sentence is not sourced. A Google search would show that nearly every single time such a game is mentioned, Wikipedia is listed as a source (and invariably the entire article on it is typed out verbatim... if copy-and-pasted material can be called typed). It would be nice to have one, although it seems that the person that added it was, like myself, editing through an IP address. He apparently had only ever edited Wikipedia twice, and both times being for this article, in the Legacy section. --71.31.128.108 (talk) 04:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

References or it didn't happen. ;) You can remove the statement from the article, just state that it is unreferenced. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 15:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I was highly skeptical of that as well without references. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 16:45, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Do you mean the Atari 2600 game by Activision called Freeway? It was released in 1981. Neither is based on the other - they were both developed independently at the same time. JAF1970 (talk) 15:38, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I was the person who added the reference to "Freeway". I was the programmer who developed it, in 1971. There was a lot of seminal graphics work done on the Imlac PDS-1; unfortunately the Wikipedia page for it is very bare -- I guess there are few of us around anymore that used it. The graphics world at the time was very small, people showed and copied ideas willy nilly, without attribution. It was nice to see your stuff get used even if your name wasn't on it, and nobody thought about financial aspects of copying -- we were all university people, after all.

The basis for my assertion about copying is that the gameplay, screens and motion are too identical to my original programming for it NOT to be a copy. My statement was The original "Highway Crossing Frog" was actually an exact copy of an earlier game called Freeway, developed in 1971 at the University of Washington Psychology Department on an IMLAC PDS-1 graphics minicomputer, as the "reward" part of a project related to studies of human short-term memory. Apparently, someone at Konami saw it and commercialized it. The sponsor of the project, my boss, was Earl B. Hunt. As I did not put my name or any other desire for gain on the page, I see no problem in the assertion. Irrgang 20:28, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Frogger score progression - Twin Galaxies involvement

How should we position the information concerning the historical progression of the frogger world record, which has been the sole responsibility of Twin Galaxies all these years.

Walter Day, Twin Galaxies —Preceding unsigned comment added by Walter Day (talk • contribs) 21:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

George Costanza score

What was George Costanza's high score on the Seinfeld episode? This article lists two different scores. It lists a score of 860,630 in the "In popular culture" Section; and it lists a score of 863,050 in the "Highest score" Section. Does anyone know which is correct? Thanks. (64.252.132.97 (talk) 17:57, 10 January 2010 (UTC))

Also, the latter score (the score of 863,050 that is listed in the "Highest score" Section) has a Wikipedia editorial comment that states: "Note: Guiness World Records source their Arcade world records scores from Twin Galaxies". I have no idea what that means and what its relevance is to the Costanza score. Assuming that it might have some bearing, I decided to not edit the listed score that I think is erroneous. Does anyone know for sure? Thanks. (64.252.132.97 (talk) 18:07, 10 January 2010 (UTC))

What about the soundtrack?

Is it taken from some classic melody? I always thought it is but I don't know the name of the melody.--Pokipsy76 (talk) 17:35, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Frogger Symphony in B flat? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.48.162 (talk) 11:28, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Incorrect Statement

Hi guys. This sentence is not a correct statement of fact: "It was also an early example of dual-core processing, using two Z80 processors.[1]"

Using more than one "main" processor or CPU, more appropriately, is called multiprocessing. Although dual, tri, quad, six, etc. core chips take the "guts" of a CPU to effectively boost the performance of ONE CPU to the level of multiple ones, it is still a single CPU.

I think the better statement would be: "It was also an early example of a game using more than one CPU, using two Z80 processors." This is factually correct with the source cited and removes the term dual-core which is a precise technical term. I'll update the page. If there are any questions or comments lets do it here. I am a big classic gamer guy and I know how intense the feelings are with this stuff. But I am also an IT professional and I am paid to know this stuff. In this case, it is very clear cut that dual-core should not be used here. Take Care.BinaryLust (talk) 20:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Categories list

All the categories look suitable, but the total massive of them is so awesome! Is everything good with it? Ignatus (talk) 16:07, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Question on Atari Port?

The article says Parker Bros. had the rights to the Atari 8-bit family port, but according to Steven Levy's Hackers, the Atari 8-bit port was done by John Harris, who worked on royalties for Sierra. It's also stated in a Softline review from Nov 1982 that Frogger was released by Sierra for the "Atari 400 or 800; 32K disk; 16K cassette". It would seem Parker Bros. took the cartridge deal for the Atari 8-bit, but Sierra handled the disk and cassette for the 8-bit. Is this correct? just want to clarify before adding change. Madnessandcivilization (talk) 00:23, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't see where the article says that about Parker Bros. It clearly states Sierra had the right to all magnetic media releases, while Sierra had the rights to cartridge releases. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 14:14, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Dead links

Some links are 404; some are very crappy sources, don't meet criteria. R3ap3R (talk) 16:32, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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Does a cartridge version for the the TRS-80 Color Computer really exist?

In the article, it says:

Sierra released disk and/or tape ports for the C64, Apple II, the original 128K Macintosh, IBM PC, Atari 2600 Supercharger, as well as cartridge versions for the TRS-80 Color Computer.

After discussing with fellow TRS-80 Color Computer (CoCo) fans and going through tons of magazines, we are unable to find any proof of the existence of any cartridge version of Frogger for that computer. The only official version we can find is the Cornsoft produced magnetic media version.

Are we really sure such a cartridge version was indeed ever made?

Frodo (talk) 13:37, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Music During Game Play

I'm currently playing the MAME version of Frogger. Besides Yankee Doodle, it also plays Camptown Races. Since this is MAME, I was wondering if the original arcade version had this music also. I know the ROMs are supposed to be the same, but I've encountered others which are not. Thanks!THX1136 (talk) 14:39, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes, the arcade has all of the tunes that are in MAME. But the song isn't actually Yankee Doodle. In Japan the song is known as "Alps Ichiman Jaku," and has completely different lyrics.

Every single song in the game was known to Japanese children when it was released. Had the game been properly translated to English it would have had english children's songs, and songs from US cartoons. And ran into even MORE copyright trouble. :) 73.151.32.230 (talk) 04:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)