Talk:Gackt

Translation of English Wikipedia to Japanese Wikipedia

Hi, the article at Japanese Wikipedia is of a very poor quality with many editorial problems for years. It has very good pageviews and sometimes extraordinary pageviews statistics. It needs a new revision comparable to the quality and content here at English Wikipedia. Hence it is needed someone or group of editors willing to cooperate to do WP:TRANSLATEUS of the article on English Wikipedia in the form which can be found at User:Miki Filigranski/sandbox (done with mechanic translation using Google Translate, is not of good enough quality for Japanese Wikipedia standard; for translation editing you can use the same sandbox; when saving the edit on Japanese Wikipedia in the edit summary must be provided URL link to English Wikipedia article due to copyrights as said at WP:TRANSLATEUS). @Mr. Stradivarius, Curly Turkey, Bueller 007, Nihonjoe, Athomeinkobe, EvergreenFir, CaptainSakura, ColorPmoegi822, Decafespresso, Deer hunter, Ff355e, FMmice, Lily-hundred, Masatami, Midori No Sora, Mulief, Reiisi, Satohina, Syunsyunminmin, TwinTails, VampyIceMan, YTRK, おてんきや, タバコはマーダー, 本多チロル, and USSR-Slav: thank you in advance. Miki Filigranski (talk) 15:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Appearance

@Goldgreymon: please stop removing the same sentence about Gackt's "macho" appearance in late career. That information is not inaccurate (easily evident from his public and other appearances in which his style is different than in his early career), nor is poorly sourced (as is authored by PhD professor Adrienne Renee Johnson and published by Palgrave Macmillan). It is about his overall appearance, while playing a role in a movie doesn't mean anything else about it. The information you're adding, on the contrary, is poorly sourced and WP:SYNTH or WP:OR because is based on an open-access article by, although PhD cndidate Miranda Ruth Larsen, which does not explicitly say his appearance was influenced by boys love and shojo manga, only that there's large market for that and appeals to women audience/fan fiction, and the article's cited sources which aren't cited in the Wikipedia article barely mention, or do not even mention Gackt at all. It is SYNTH because you're backing such (miss)information with Gackt's second autobiography (without quote and page), claiming that he admitted liking such manga, and that the influence on the creation of Rei Asami/role was certain Bancoran - overall, has almost nothing to do with the topic in question and provided information and explanation is very confusing, failing WP:VERIFY. Miki Filigranski (talk) 12:47, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

You are equating how Gackt dresses off stage with, with his stage persona. Yes you can find photos of Gackt looking more masculine when he's not performing on stage. But when he's performing on stage his appearance is far more androgynous. This is how he dressed during his Last Visualive File:Gackt - Last Moon.jpg. You may as well say Gackt's appearance was "macho" during his Malice Mizer years because because you can find photos of him not wearing heavy make-up and European period costumes during that time period as well.The source you cite says in a footnote.

"This reference is now somewhat dated. Gackt’s current (2017) image tends more toward a “macho” aesthetic that is popular with men as much as with women—a shift which deserves more attention at a later date. His “break” as a member of Malice Mizer, however, still makes his presence here meaningful."

This quote is misleading it ignores the context that Gackt had paused his music activities during that time. Gackt's androgynous aesthetic is something he adopts when performing on stage or during acting roles. So to claim Gackt "changed his aesthetic to "macho"" is just factually wrong.

I replaced that quote with Miranda Ruth Larsen's article because it's more up to date and is based on more thorough understanding of Gackt's public career. And Larsen's article does in fact explicitly state that Gackt's appearance is influenced by boys love manga.

"While occasionally heteronormative, Gackt’s physical appearance and actions during fan service utilize the “expressive tools of yaoi and BL [to] offer a phenomenon that is already several steps ahead—namely, the ‘amusementization of gender’”. Consistently modifying his appearance, emulating the imagery of the bishōnen figure, and participating in aesthetic tie-in campaigns have heavily factored into Gackt’s particular celebrity persona. Considering the strong ties between fan service and the yaoi/BL genres, this is an unsurprising path for such a heavily aestheticized celebrity."

Miranda Larsen's article is more recent and delves deeply into Gackt's public image. While the source your defending only mentions Gackt in passing and is primarily about visual kei as a whole. I also quoted Gackt's own autobiography because in that he admits to as a basis for his appearance during acting roles. The Adrienne Johnson article is both out of date and factually wrong. Goldgreymon (talk) 17:11, 2 October 2024 (UTC)