Talk:Genesis: In Concert
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Bizarre Song Selection
editI have never seen this film but what a bizarre selection of songs! Excerpts of Cinema Show and Supper's Ready MAY possibly work, like the closing section of Musical Box did on Seconds Out but why did they choose Fly on a Windshield for this album? To me, it is just a bridging section for the Lamb. Making I Know What I Like the opening number seems strange, too.
I can appreciate that this was during the band's transition to Phil but he still had a great legacy of earlier songs to draw upon that he could sing at least competently. Can anyone give more reasons for the apparently strange song choices for this film in the article? 210.50.60.33 (talk) 10:32, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- The director seems to have chosen what to keep and what to cut. On the 1976 tour, the band played "Cinema Show" and "Supper's Ready" in their complete version. (This was the era before medleys... the first hint of a medley was the snippet from "Stagnation" that got added to the end of "I Know What I Like", and which remained there ever afterward.) They also played "Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" / "Fly on a Windshield" (instrumental section) / "Carpet Crawlers" as a single block.
- Also, note that many CDs split the tracks incorrectly. The true "Fly on a Windshield" includes the vocal section from "There's something solid forming in the air" until the word "windshield", and then the entire instrumental section after that; "Broadway Melody" begins about one second before the next vocal section ("Echoes of the ..."). And the instrumental section of "Fly" is considered a classic track by many; on the new box set Tony and Mike mention that they originally used the descriptive title "Pharaohs Going Down the Nile" to describe it. So I don't think it's "just a bridging section"!
- Still, the answer is: Tony Maylam made the choices and I don't know if he ever said why. — Lawrence King (talk) 21:41, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Version Without Cut Sequences
editDoes a version of this concert film exist that just shows the concert footage instead of the sequences from silent films and the slow motion girl? The non-concert sequences make an otherwise excellent slice of Genesis history completely unwatchable for me. I saw this at a cinema once and couldn't fathom why the filmmaker thought seeing the band on stage wasn't enough, although I know the obvious guesses (bad filmmaker, band's idea etc.). I've never read any mention of this concert film by the band.ToaneeM (talk) 13:18, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- I suspect that both concerts (Glasgow and Staffordshire) were filmed in their entirety, and then Tony Maylam viewed the footage of both nights, chose which songs to include, which to include pieces of, and which to exclude, and then replaced some of the video with his odd proto-music video footage. Then the unused audio and video was either thrown away, or was put into some vault where it's still sitting today. They have never surfaced, and remain unknown to Genesis fans and bootleg collectors. There's at least one audience-recorded bootleg of the Glasgow show, but obviously it's much lower quality than the audio in the film.
- Personally, I'd be more excited if the original audio surfaced than I would for the video! The highest quality audio recording of a complete show from this tour is the professionally-recorded 13 April 1976 show in Pittsburg, but it's still not as high quality as the audio for the extant portions of the In Concert film. — Lawrence King (talk) 22:45, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Original research
editThere appears to be original research included in the article concerning the 2007 DVD video framerates and audio as well as other points of minutiae. Apart from being unsourced it all looks like original research and needs to be sourced or removed. Dyolf87 (talk) 07:48, 5 May 2019 (UTC)