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editI removed the sale option bit because the skysports citation did not mention it, not any other news report that i read-— Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.2.166.208 (talk) 22:38, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
"Centre back" vs "Centre Back"
editDue to the recent edit war, if you would like to discuss whether back should be capitalised or not, do it here. I'd rather not see anyone get blocked, and it needs to be sorted out before it comes back to that. I believe it should remain "Centre back", but if need be, you can bring it up at WP:FOOTY's talk page. – LATICS talk 20:55, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- PeeJay2K3 and 189.7.182.186 have already been blocked for 24 hours over this. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:32, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- And a hellish 24 hours it was too. Anyway, as a matter of grammatical correctness, there should most certainly not be a capitalised B at the beginning of "back", as "centre back" is not a proper noun. The C that begins "centre" is only capitalised as it begins the line. – PeeJay 00:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I noticed the blocks—only reason I noticed the situation at all. I just figured I'd throw in my opinion to hopefully prevent it from happening again. – LATICS talk 03:34, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
FC Barcelona/Barcelona
editThe links to FC Barcelona in the infobox should be piped to Barcelona as the convention on Wikipedia is to pipe to the club's commonly used name, which, in this case, is "Barcelona". There is no need to include the "FC" bit as it is completely unambiguous that we are talking about a football club here. As for "Centre Back"/"Centre back", the B should not be capitalised as it is not a proper noun. – PeeJay 23:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
So, I try to explain. I always try padrozinar the Wikipedia, not to be a mess. In the particular case, following the trend of 99% of the players or former players of Barcelona, put "FC" Barcelona, because it is really the name of the club. This case is different from "AC Milan" or "Real Madrid CF", because the club "FC Barcelona" is always said that. When the club is referred to as not to confudir with the city of Barcelona. However, the user decided PeeJay2K3 be reversing the Gerard Piqué and only him. Why not change all the other players too? My opinion is that all are equal, and 99% of the cases is "FC Barcelona", it is easier to get 1% do not agree? --Bruninho (talk) 7 July 2009 (UTC)
- My special attention to Piqué's article only stems from the fact that Piqué used to play for Manchester United, all of whose players I have on my watchlist. The situation should be the same with Jordi Cruyff. Also, as I mentioned above, the common name for the team in the English-speaking world is "Barcelona". Barely anyone in the UK says "FC Barcelona", and no one gets the club confused with the city because it is clear from the context which is being referred to. Bruninho, there have actually been discussions about your edits at WT:FOOTY, and the consensus does tend to agree with my standpoint. – PeeJay 14:46, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
- PeeJay is correct. There was a very long and detailed discussion about link piping at WT:FOOTY where it was decided that, on the English WP, football club names should be piped without any AC/SC/FC abbreviations (with one or two exceptions, like Seattle Sounders FC, where the FC part is *not* an abbreviation but part of the team's actual common name in English). FC Barcelona should be piped as Barcelona, just as AC Milan should be piped as Milan and Manchester United should be piped as Manchester United.--JonBroxton (talk) 20:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
- And to answer Bruninho's other point - yes, ALL references to FC Barcelona should be piped Barcelona throughout the English Wikipedia. All other players need to be changed. --JonBroxton (talk) 20:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
I disagree entirely. The FC is indeed an intrinsic part of the name, and the removal of this is a source of irritation to FC Barcelona supporters (much like referring to Athletic Bilbao as Bilbao). --Bcnviajero (talk) 15:52, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
- I've never seen anyone refer to Athletic Bilbao just as "Bilbao". Anyway, Barcelona is just as much "FC Barcelona" as Bayern Munich is "FC Bayern". We refer to those clubs as Barcelona and Bayern Munich because that's how they are referred to in the English-language media. – PeeJay 22:38, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Catalonia
editCatalonia is not a national team; it is an autonomous community selection —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.229.223.4 (talk) 16:33, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- So? It's not a club either, so where would you suggest we put his stats for the Catalonia team? The national team section is obviously the best place for it. – PeeJay 16:36, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- that is rubbish. Catalunya is respected as a country by all but the worst Spanish nationalists. 86.176.130.202 (talk) 18:28, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
It is a regional team playing friendly matches. Not sanctioned by UEFA/FIFA. Players from all nationalities are allowed to play in it. You can include that information, but definitely not in the "national team" section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hunig3 (talk • contribs) 00:48, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- Players' eligibility for the Catalonia national team may not be restricted by UEFA or FIFA, but they are restricted by the team's own policies. Why would they select a non-Catalonian player for the team when, to all intents and purposes, they are trying to treat the team like a legitimate national team? Your argument makes no sense. – PeeJay 10:21, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Gay? Gosh...
editPiqué was also seen being very close with Zlatan Ibrahimovic in may 2010. There are rumours that both might be gay or just good friends. - complete trash, even the reference says it's completely incorrect. Both players denied it, therefore it should be removed from the article. SwampyQ2 (talk) 19:20, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- This was an speculation made regarding his personal life, though it is of no concern to anyone, really, I don't think it should be completely removed. The article can mention this "controversy" and all questioning, and simply explain how Gerard Piqué dismissed and denied the claim. Of course, that doesn't completely mean that he's not homosexual, but if he says he isn't, there's no reason for anyone to claim otherwise. Still, I think it is well worth noting on the article. T.W. (talk) 17:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
- Here is the photograph that caused it all. It seems to have caused quite a stir in the Spanish gossiping circles, but thats about it. I have to admit the picture is a rather touchingly romantic one, but Zlatan Ibrahimović is married with kids so perhaps not. Plus if there was anything on this article it would of course have to be added to Zlatan's article.--EchetusXe 00:00, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Piqué is never a gay! Niradex (talk) 08:47, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Spitting incident
editShould some put information about the spitting incident with Pedro Cortes, director of the Spanish football federation at the World cup celebrations 2010.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1294627/Gerard-Pique-spits-Spanish-official.html#ixzz0ttkl9iDB —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.74.167 (talk) 01:27, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Goals under Manchester United
editThe article states "Piqué scored the first of Manchester United's four goals in that match." However, one look at the infobox and 0 is listed under the goals he scored under Man Utd. This needs to be updated/corrected. Regards, ANGCHENRUI Talk♨ 10:42, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- The infobox is for league stats only. I wish people would read the note at the bottom of the infobox before commenting! – PeeJay 15:01, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Spelling of "Bernabeu"
editPiqué's second family name, Bernabeu, is Catalan and is spelled with no accents (the emphasis already falls on the final E according to Catalan pronunciation rules). The Real Madrid stadium is Bernabéu, with an accent in accordance with Spanish spelling rules, but this is NOT Gerard Piqué's name. Please do not change the spelling of Bernabeu in this article. Kallionae (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:54, 9 October 2011 (UTC).
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Manchester United
editThe first sentence contradicts itself by stating he made his debut against Crewe as a striker, then as a centre-back, whereas the link states United gave the "Spanish midfielder" his debut. RioVerde (talk) 04:57, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
Catalonia line-up image
editThe photo of Pique lining up for the Catalonia team should be left in this article. It is a good and interesting picture, and far more interesting than one of him making a bog-standard header for Spain. The Catalonia team may not participate in FIFA-approved matches, but the fact that players like Pique, Xavi, and many others have played for them is very noteworthy, and since we have a picture, we should use it. – PeeJay 19:42, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
- This heading must be illustrated with photos from Piqué's official national team. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an album of unofficial matches.Puente aereo (talk) 09:41, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- You're right, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. As such, we report the facts. Pique has played for Catalonia, and since we have a photo of the line-up from one of his appearances, we should add it. Stop denying the existence of the Catalonia team just because you have some Spanish nationalist bias. – PeeJay 20:21, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- Wales and Scotland are national teams, another Spanish regional teams not. So please keep out politics, only the law. Puente aereo (talk) 15:39, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- I'm the only one here who is keeping politics out of this. There is a Catalonia team that plays regular matches and features players such as Pique, Xavi, and the rest. We list the Catalonia team among Pique's national teams in the infobox. We have a picture of Pique lining up for Catalonia. Therefore, we should use that picture in place of a crap photo of him playing for Spain, especially since we have several photos of him playing for Spain already. – PeeJay 22:44, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- His friendly Regional team career is irrelevant. But if you want to show the photo, the only way is open a new heading tittled "unnofficial regional team friendly games". Puente aereo (talk) 15:33, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
- The picture should be left in the article as it displays his "playing career" for Catalonia, which is quite interesting for readers. And if there is such a pic, why not use it? Kante4 (talk) 13:46, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- The question probably it's, why appears an unofficial regional team in his international carrer, it is a delusion for readers. Puente aereo (talk) 13:00, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
- It's known and written that he plays(ed) for the Catalonia team, so a pic can't hurt if available. Just because you don't like it (or Catalonia) is not a reason. So stop reverting please or Admins have to step in. Kante4 (talk) 00:15, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
- It's known and written that play friendly games with a Spanish Regional team is not a reason to distort an official international carrer. It is a delusion for readers refer to these irrelevant friendly matches like part of his international carrer, it is not serious. Puente aereo (talk) 21:46, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
- wow! outright anti-Catalan bigotry! Catalonia is not a Spanish region but a nation. Only mad Spanish nationalists deny this. 86.176.130.202 (talk) 18:27, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- It's known and written that play friendly games with a Spanish Regional team is not a reason to distort an official international carrer. It is a delusion for readers refer to these irrelevant friendly matches like part of his international carrer, it is not serious. Puente aereo (talk) 21:46, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
- It's known and written that he plays(ed) for the Catalonia team, so a pic can't hurt if available. Just because you don't like it (or Catalonia) is not a reason. So stop reverting please or Admins have to step in. Kante4 (talk) 00:15, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
- The question probably it's, why appears an unofficial regional team in his international carrer, it is a delusion for readers. Puente aereo (talk) 13:00, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
- The picture should be left in the article as it displays his "playing career" for Catalonia, which is quite interesting for readers. And if there is such a pic, why not use it? Kante4 (talk) 13:46, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- His friendly Regional team career is irrelevant. But if you want to show the photo, the only way is open a new heading tittled "unnofficial regional team friendly games". Puente aereo (talk) 15:33, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
- I'm the only one here who is keeping politics out of this. There is a Catalonia team that plays regular matches and features players such as Pique, Xavi, and the rest. We list the Catalonia team among Pique's national teams in the infobox. We have a picture of Pique lining up for Catalonia. Therefore, we should use that picture in place of a crap photo of him playing for Spain, especially since we have several photos of him playing for Spain already. – PeeJay 22:44, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Wales and Scotland are national teams, another Spanish regional teams not. So please keep out politics, only the law. Puente aereo (talk) 15:39, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- You're right, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. As such, we report the facts. Pique has played for Catalonia, and since we have a photo of the line-up from one of his appearances, we should add it. Stop denying the existence of the Catalonia team just because you have some Spanish nationalist bias. – PeeJay 20:21, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
It would not be serious to exclude them as readers are interested in it maybe, so stop you bias against him/catalonia and leave it in there as you are the only one who wants to change it. Kante4 (talk) 02:06, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
new goals from piqué
editGerard pique had 12 goals in domestic league in the 2013/14 season, now , in this league ,has scored 2 more !, one against Espanyol , and other, more recent , against Córdoba , league , did omit goals ?, are now league , la Liga , are valid for your profile now , 12 ( season 2013/14) + 2 = 14 ( season 2014/15 ) can add ?
Real Zaragoza total appearances ..
editHello all, If we check every player we can see there is a total appearances even if it is only one season with one team, especially if we look now at the current table due to the same font we can't really separate Barca appearances from Zaragoza appearances , I think tables should be all systemic in the same manner and pique shouldn't be different .
thank you all
Adnan (talk) 18:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- Just because something is done a particular way on other articles doesn't mean tha way is right. In fact, the MOS for football biographies says one-season spells don't need a total row. It's totally unnecessary. – PeeJay 18:51, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- ok no worries should we make it in bold font then or not needed also ?? =)
Adnan (talk) 18:53, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- Nope, not needed. Cheers for being civil about this though. – PeeJay 23:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- Of course mate i am here to help not to make the life for me or others here harder to improve wikipedia =) thank you too.
Picture
editDoes anyone have a more recent picture of this guy in a Barça/Spain kit? Infobox image could do with an update. Right now, the other option is of him in a suit at some event which I think is unsuitable (sorry) for an active player. — Anakimitalk 23:52, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Spanish pronunciation
edit@Mr KEBAB: Is it [ɟʝeˈɾar piˈke βernaˈβeu] or [ɟʝeˈɾarð-]? It was deleted due to unknown reasons. LoveVanPersie (talk) 15:44, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- @LoveVanPersie: Most probably the former. Mr KEBAB (talk) 16:05, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Name pronunciation
editHis name is Catalan and thus only the Catalan pronunciation should be shown in this article. 31.151.158.252 (talk) 15:02, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- agree and the page needs to be edited to state he is Catalan not Spanish 86.176.130.202 (talk) 18:25, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2022
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Gerard Pique has retired 2A00:23C5:F201:B401:1C28:C27A:7BF2:89FA (talk) 18:53, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 19:09, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2022 (2)
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Piqué scored 2 goals for Manchester United not 0 as your page informs, please amend 2A02:C7E:286B:3400:4506:BEA5:E794:AE58 (talk) 21:54, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:53, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
GERAD
editGerad Pique Was A Spanish Footballer Who Played For Manchester United. ANd Barcelona He Retired At Barcelona In November 2022 86.41.248.24 (talk) 23:17, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
Paragraph about his farewell (Nov. 5, 2022)
edit"Sempre" is not Spanish, it's Catalan. Source: any proper dictionary. Please correct. 2600:8800:C8F:1D00:E121:D248:7EFA:A9D0 (talk) 07:49, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- Upvote, this is correct: "sempre" is Catalan, not Spanish. The same word in Spanish is "siempre". Timlew (talk) 13:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
The word Sempre
editI am not member of the Royal Spanish Academy, so you may not take my word for it, but I don't think it means Always in Spanish. 88.23.116.141 (talk) 09:44, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- It's Catalan and it means always in Catalan. In Spanish it is siempre 86.176.130.202 (talk) 18:23, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Catalan not Spanish
editHi all Picque is massively, indisputably Catalan NOT Spanish but this Wiki does not respect that. Glyn 86.176.130.202 (talk) 18:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- "Born and bred in Barcelona, Pique has been linked with the Catalonia independence movement, which is not well received by patriotic Spanish fans." https://www.football-espana.net/2022/03/31/gerard-pique-catalan-independence-spain
- "He stressed his dual identity doesn't dilute his passion when playing football for Spain. "I feel Catalan and I'm in favour of the referendum, which is a democratic process, but that has nothing to do with the national team," he said
- https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2700321-why-cachondo-gerard-pique-is-such-a-hate-figure-among-spains-football-fans
- "The Barcelona-born defender said: “I am, and I feel Catalan, and I am very proud of the people, of their behaviour, like in the last seven years.”"
- https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/oct/01/barcelona-gerard-pique-catalan-independence 86.176.130.202 (talk) 11:54, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2022
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Pique is Catalan not Spanish and the article should be updated to respect that. 2A00:23C8:1686:DD01:286A:66FB:2192:593E (talk) 22:48, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 23:15, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- Honestly do you really not know who Picque is?
- "Born and bred in Barcelona, Pique has been linked with the Catalonia independence movement, which is not well received by patriotic Spanish fans." https://www.football-espana.net/2022/03/31/gerard-pique-catalan-independence-spain
- "He stressed his dual identity doesn't dilute his passion when playing football for Spain. "I feel Catalan and I'm in favour of the referendum, which is a democratic process, but that has nothing to do with the national team," he said
- https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2700321-why-cachondo-gerard-pique-is-such-a-hate-figure-among-spains-football-fans
- "The Barcelona-born defender said: “I am, and I feel Catalan, and I am very proud of the people, of their behaviour, like in the last seven years.”"
- https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/oct/01/barcelona-gerard-pique-catalan-independence 86.176.130.202 (talk) 11:53, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Hi MadGuy .. I have provided references. Please action. regards 86.176.130.202 (talk) 10:24, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- Hi I have provided reliable sources. Please change. HackneyGlyn21 (talk) 21:35, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
Pique hasn't retired yet
editPique hasn't retired yet, Xavi says that Osasuna will be his last game, not Almeria and that is because Pique won't officially retire until the world cup break https://twitter.com/BarcaUniversal/status/1588557818541604864 Lolmom23 (talk) 14:00, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
League title
editWhy isn't he considered a La Liga 2022-23 champion if he has played 6 games in the tournament? Markus2801 (talk) 09:30, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- He should be. Barcelona also confirmed on Twitter (here: [1]) that he received a medal, being part of the squad in the first half of the season. Profavi1 (talk) 14:24, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Does his profile from FC Barcelona's official website mentions that or not? NextEditor123 (talk) 17:41, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2024
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Says from Catalonia, should be from Spain or from Catalonia, Spain. Both in the initial description as well as the early life section. Should be amended as it is factually incorrect, Catalonia is not an independant country, but part of Spain. Adviso747 (talk) 17:13, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 00:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)