Talk:Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance

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Unsourced casts

I just recently removed mentioned casts that aren't sourced. I was going to explain myself but I accidently saved my revisions before I could so I will explain myself here. If you bring a new cast in the article, they must be sourced to confirm it. Thank you. − Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 23:46, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Is someone removing my edits about Christopher Lambert being confirmed, and the question of whether or not this is a sequel or a reboot? If so, why? All of these sources are confirmed in the works cited page. 3/23/11

Need of TBA or Unknown Cast?

Is there really a need of writing TBA or Unknown cast just because they are being sourced? Please help me since I'm noticing this in many upcoming film articlesAshu (talk) 12:36, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Reception section is unbalanced

OK, first, there is the source of the review, a source I've never heard of in my entire 50 years of life. THEN, add in the description for membership with that source, per Wiki, "The marathon is invite-only via an application process. Before BNAT 5 in 2003, there were typically two ways to gain admittance – one for Austin residents that usually involved some event (such as BNAT 4 in 2002 having a costume contest at a horror movie screening at an abandoned mental institution on Halloween), then a separate one for those not in the Central Texas area. After BNAT 5, the application process was changed to internet-only involving several essay-style questions and submissions of pictures, which is then used to create a yearbook with all the registered attendees. Competition to get in is fierce, as 10,000 or more applicants attempt to gain one of the approximately 200 seats. This system was put into place to ensure that only die-hard film fans would be in attendance as well as to be fair, as attendance is limited to the seating capacity of the Alamo Drafthouse." AND no OTHER sources. Sorry, folks but in my "neck of the woods", one source is OR or at least POV. Can someone kindly fix that? Otherwise, I suggest removal of the review portion. THAT all said, knowing Hollywood's propensity for brand capitalization, I'd not be surprised with a bomb...Wzrd1 (talk) 07:57, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

POV and OR have nothing to do with the number of sources cited in a section. Please read those policies more carefully in order to familiarize yourself with them.

As for the section in question, the number of sources cited in it will increase as the article is developed, and after the film is released. Nightscream (talk) 12:04, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Reboot

This is actually more of a reboot than a direct sequel to the first film with the only link being Nicholas Cage. The origin and other facits are different than the first film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.108.181.185 (talk) 01:20, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Being of the few who actually sat through this steaming pile, you are wrong sir/madam. It's a continuation and references the first film many times. I guess you left the movie early - wise move. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.79.2.203 (talk) 03:22, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

There are minor differences, yes. Most of them don't directly contradict the first movie, though. --46.112.144.4 (talk) 16:30, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

What does reboot even mean? How much does a sequel need to be a slave to the film that came before it? Just because a film maker gives a film a strange description doesn't mean this encyclopedia should necessarily agree to go along with it either.

• Josh Wigler (November 4, 2009). "EXCLUSIVE: David Goyer Says 'Ghost Rider 2' Isn't A Reboot, Takes Place Eight Years Later". splashpage.mtv.com. Retrieved January 25, 2011.

In any case Goyer specifically said it wasn't a reboot so anyone claiming otherwise would need a very strong argument. I'm replying to a very old comment because even recently people have changed the article to use the word reboot and they shouldn't be mislead by a lone comment on the talk page with no replies. -- 109.76.150.183 (talk) 13:09, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

¶This is supposedly a sequel to the Ghost Rider movie, and someone is quoted in the article as saying there are no contradictions, BUT .... unlike the first movie, here the Ghost Rider is not dependent on darkness or shadow nor impaired by sunlight (that was an important issue in the climax of the first movie). Nicholas Cage is the one and only carryover. What had been a Harley-Davidson motorcycle has been replaced by a Yamaha (something significant to motorcycle fans), the Ghost's skull - for the first movie they actually x-rayed Cage's head and worked up a replica of his own skull - has been replaced by a skull with a conspicuously inapposite chin and an unrealistic jaw hinge. No more vertical motor runs. What were, in the first movie, a flaming wake of the motorcycle is here replaced with conventional fires which look more painful than impressive. No more Penance Stare. A dull and lifeless sequel. Sussmanbern (talk) 00:33, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Edit request on 27 February 2012

The town in Romania was not Targu-Jiu, but Sibiu.

98.196.42.190 (talk) 01:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Celestra (talk) 01:58, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 March 2012

Can you please add the box office for this movie so far? --68.118.190.224 (talk) 05:38, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

If you can cite a reliable source for it per WP:V, WP:IRS, WP:CS, et al., absolutely. Nightscream (talk) 06:55, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

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Budget

As often happens there are conflicting sources for the budget of this film. I've seen Box Office Mojo make enough mistakes and revise figures to not be particularly confident about their estimate putting the budget at $57 million but I'm not certain I should place much confidence in TheWrap.com when they put the budget at $75 million.

FWIW the-numbers.com puts the budget at $57 million too. -- 109.79.176.189 (talk) 05:10, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Variety also puts the budget at around $75 million: "With a mid-$70 million budget, “Ghost Rider” is tracking much softer than its predecessor" -- 109.79.176.189 (talk) 15:11, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

I remain highly skeptical of the $57 million figure, I strongly suspect a typo, where the digits got mixed up. They never give any context or explanation for where they got that figure. It seems especially implausible when the first film had a budget of $110 million. The Wrap, Variety, provided context for their figures (as noted above) as did various others (Reuters) (Slashfilm) [1] [2] [3] as they repeated the story. Template:Infobox film says if there are conflicting budget figures to include both figures, so I'm going to do that for now but the lower figure is dubious. -- 109.79.91.180 (talk) 22:54, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

References

Despite the fact that I have extremely low confidence in the qualify of the often unreliable Box Office Mojo that is still not an excuse to vandalize or cherry pick budget figures, which Template:Infobox film specifically says not to do.
We need to establish a WP:LOCALCONSENSUS to omit the improbably lower budget figure unlikely figures before making any such deletes. -- 109.76.192.179 (talk) 06:09, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Lawsuit

Mike Gaboff was injured during filming of a stunt to promote the DVD release. Gaboff sued Sony for $1 million to cover his medical expenses and loss of earnings. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/ghost-rider-2-stuntman-sues-427127

I was thinking about adding this to the article but since it was [not] directly a part of the film, only a stunt to promote the DVD, I decided it was better not to add it unless I could also include the results of the case, was it dismissed or did Sony settle out of court? If someone can find the answer then it might be worth adding. -- 109.79.91.180 (talk) 00:56, 10 May 2019 (UTC)