Talk:Giovanni Reyna
Latest comment: 1 month ago by Jay eyem in topic Is he really one of the best young players?
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WC controversy
editIs the bit about the WC controversy & his parents’ actions really relevant here? Sure let’s keep the part about poor training, but the rest should go on Danielle and Claudio’s pages. 2603:8000:E102:1CDB:9C85:FBA4:AF16:8AAC (talk) 21:27, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 2 February 2024
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 (talk) 13:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
Giovanni Reyna → Gio Reyna – WP:COMMONNAME per [1] [2] Joeykai (talk) 03:57, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: Overall, Giovanni is still more commonly used --FMSky (talk) 08:34, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Oppose - my Google search gives me 6.99 million for 'Giovanni Reyna', 4.64 million for 'Gio Reyna'. GiantSnowman 14:21, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - per Forest site and the above, I think the article is still at the correct title. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 15:10, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
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Is he really one of the best young players?
editA 2022 article by an American sports company about an American could (probably not though) be considered biased, and he is not so young anymore plus not very good right now. 115.70.87.192 (talk) 09:00, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
- Regardless of the sourcing for this claim, I do wonder at what point we remove the claim from the lead, as it seems to be a constant point of consternation among some editors. I think there is a legitimate conversation to be had here on when he becomes "too old" for this to be included. Or perhaps rephrased to "once considered one of the best young players" instead. Would rather have that conversation here than in random edit summaries. I will note that the references used cite U21 or U20, so we should probably consider removing it at the latest when he turns 22. Jay eyem (talk) 23:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. I think the obstinate and highly opinionated way in which this passage has been deleted has led to the conversation never actually taking place—indeed, the comment that began this conversation is nothing short of a perfect example of that. In my view—and it is entirely my view—the age of 24 is when a player exits the "youth" category and enters the "adult" category. My reasoning, of course, is that upon reaching the age of 24, a player is no longer eligible for any youth football/soccer national team. So I would say that when Reyna reaches 24, we delete this passage, as it will no longer be relevant. Anwegmann (talk) 23:28, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- It might be worth keeping an eye on new "best young players" articles as well to see if he still gets included. I personally agree in that I think of U23 as the cutoff for "young players" but I want to make sure our sources reflect that. I am sure we can revisit that when the time comes. Jay eyem (talk) 23:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. I think the obstinate and highly opinionated way in which this passage has been deleted has led to the conversation never actually taking place—indeed, the comment that began this conversation is nothing short of a perfect example of that. In my view—and it is entirely my view—the age of 24 is when a player exits the "youth" category and enters the "adult" category. My reasoning, of course, is that upon reaching the age of 24, a player is no longer eligible for any youth football/soccer national team. So I would say that when Reyna reaches 24, we delete this passage, as it will no longer be relevant. Anwegmann (talk) 23:28, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yunus Musah’s Article also has the “One of the best young players in the world” thing, the sources also present a conflict of interest in both cases and 21 is probably the last age you can be until you aren’t considered a talent anymore. 27.96.223.192 (talk) 04:32, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
This statement was removed at least 9 times by multiple users since April 2024. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. The consensus seems to be to not include it --FMSky (talk) 17:51, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- All of these edits were made my IPs—and similar ones, at that. That doesn't show consensus. I'm starting to lean toward excluding it, but we need much better evidence of consensus than a bunch of edits by similar IPs. Anwegmann (talk) 21:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah frankly I don't put a ton of stock into random IP edits, especially around such a claim. I would like to see what new "best young players" lists are out there and what they look like. He probably wouldn't be on them, but we should still follow the sources. Jay eyem (talk) 02:59, 4 October 2024 (UTC)