Talk:Gisela Werbezirk

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Edge3 (talk) 19:29, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that Austro-Hungarian actress Gisela Werbezirk claimed to receive up to 20 prank calls a day about her married name, Gisela Werbezirk Piffl? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/tampa-bay-times/123278784/
  • ALT1: ... that Austro-Hungarian Jewish actress Gisela Werbezirk fled Europe for America with her family to avoid Nazi persecution? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/123313432/the-chillicothe-constitution-tribune/
  • Reviewed: Ashley Jade
  • Comment: Created 7 days ago, so just in the 7-day window for new article creations

Created by Bungle (talk). Self-nominated at 17:19, 30 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gisela Werbezirk; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Bungle: Good article. It does look like you need a QPQ to do. Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:27, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke: That's right, I need to do a QPQ. I knew I had to get this in today while it was within 7 days from creation. QPQ will be soon, thanks. In the meantime, the decision on which hook, if either, can be considered. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:33, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

I may have forgot to note that the QPQ has been done when I started it a few days back, so hopefully we can progress this or conclude a review? Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:14, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke: As it seems you did the review, can you progress this as completed, or offer any other feedback, now the QPQ has since been done? I suggested 2 separate hooks initially for consideration. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:15, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Approve. Onegreatjoke (talk) 16:17, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

@Bungle and Onegreatjoke: I'm not too big a fan of either hook – ALT0 seems to rely on a statement given in hyperbole, and ALT1 is a tragically common story. Is there another hook that could be found? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 17:26, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron: I understand the remark regarding ALT1, in that it was not an uncommon occurrence necessarily for Jewish people to be escaping persecution around this time, though unsure how rare it was for an established actor/actress to do so and continue their career elsewhere. The original hook I provided seemed to be somewhat amusing (not for the person of course) and had some reports in other news outlets about the pranking she received. It seemed fairly unusual/unique and I am willing to see if we can progress along those lines if you can suggest what needs to be changed or reconsidered? Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

@Bungle: I'd recommend quoting directly if possible, so readers know it's probably hyperbole? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 17:29, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Personally I think ALT0 is fine as-is, no need to quote directly. The hook already states that she "claimed to receive" such calls, so readers would attribute such claims to her. I also prefer ALT0 more than ALT1. Edge3 (talk) 16:03, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

I must confess so have forgotten about this a little, so apologies for this (and for not reacting sooner to theleekycauldron). I hope it's not gone beyond an acceptable time, but appreciate it's approaching 2 months since I raised this. If ALT0 is ok, can we run with that? Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:17, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Date format

@GiantSnowman: Just on a matter of curiosity, what was your thinking behind changing the date format to DMY? As someone from the UK, I personally prefer it (DMY) but I tend to use mdy if handling American subjects or where there isn't a clear indicator to use one over the other. This isn't an issue, just a matter of curiosity. Thanks. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:38, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

The majority of the world uses DMY - she was not American, she was European, so DMY is more appropriate. GiantSnowman 14:20, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: Well, she gained American citizenship and thus became "American" and was thus best known as such in her latter life, but as I say, I personally prefer DMY anyway. I was just curious why you felt it superseded in this instance (insofar as maybe being policy-based that I should be mindful of for other articles). Thanks. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:37, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

WP:DATEVAR applies generally. GiantSnowman 14:46, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Sounds like that actually supports leaving the date format as MDY actually! Alas, if you consider DMY is more suitable, that is fine with me. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:04, 2 July 2023 (UTC)