Talk:Good Friday
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Sentence fragment
editUnless I'm missing something, this sentence is an ungrammatical sentence fragment and something seems to be missing from the start of it:
Preparation Day (14 Nisan on the Hebrew calendar) – which is the day before Passover (15 Nisan), instead of the Friday morning as the Synoptic Gospels refer to the sabbath and they believe this refers to a "high sabbath" (John 19:31) which occurs on feast days, and not the ordinary weekly sabbath.
(The aside it contains about Preparation Day is also malformed, being started by a dash but closed by a comma.) It seems like it's meant to say something like:
Some Christians observe the Crucifixion of Jesus on Preparation Day (14 Nisan on the Hebrew calendar) – which is the day before Passover (15 Nisan) – instead of
theFriday morning, as the Synoptic Gospels refer to the sabbath and they believe this refers to a "high sabbath" (John 19:31) which occurs on feast days, and not the ordinary weekly sabbath.
Citations and Relevancy: Good Friday as a Holliday
edit“Good Friday is a widely instituted legal holiday around the world, including in most Western countries and 12 U.S. states.” Is from Harpers New Monthly, 1868. is this still a relevant source for this information? 158.36.62.47 (talk) 09:14, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
Dancing / Horse Racing Content
edit@Medusahead: I very much disagree with your removal of sourced content about countries such as Germany that have formally banned dancing and horse racing on Good Friday. Simply put, the sources directly mention horse racing and dancing, and it's clearly relevant to Good Friday, as observed worldwide. --1990'sguy (talk) 13:42, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
- As you may have seen from my editing comments, I was concerned with the wording of the related law(s). When changing the content, I cited the wording of the law, which refers to the "solemn character" of the day, entertainment events that contradict it, and the public serving of drinks, but not, to my knowledge, "horse racing" (which is in Germany not as common as elsewhere). Events prohibited on Good Friday may include public dance and horse racing, but not non-exclusive. You may have overlooked at least twice that the replaced content was sourced, too.
- Futhermore, the context, namely the introduction, seems to be very strange to speak of dancing and horeracing "in some countries". By the way, this very sentence is a double or even a triple. Horse racing seema to be very important. When speaking of Germany or Australia, this should be done correctly and possibly under the caption of the country to which it relates.--Medusahead (talk) 08:35, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Notable publications have found the dancing ban and horse racing ban to be relevant. Though your personal experience doesn't seem to reflect that, Wikipedia does not accept WP:Original Research but relies on reliable secondary sources. I oppose the deletion of these examples. Let's wait and see what others have to say, but per WP: BRD, you will let the material remain in the article now. --1990'sguy (talk) 04:09, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- The dancing ban should be mentioned explicitly as 1990'sguy says. I don't mind if you replace "horse racing" with "gambling" since the article mentions that too and gambling encompasses horse racing. Hugitt (talk) 05:57, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, Hugitt. 1990's guy, again: I didn't say or act anything against the relevancy of that theme and I sourced the proposed changed wording, so it is not my OR. Let's keep waiting and see whether another mentions that one and the same sentence about the ban of horse races and dancing is twice in the article, once in the introduction and the second time under the caption of "associated customs" which seems a little bit odd, too. And please refrain from telling me what to do apart from discussing as I left your restoration of 25th [1] of a doubled content unchanged, although you didn't respond to any of my arguments. --Medusahead (talk) 08:56, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- I too like the sentence the way it is now and information can be repeated in the lead because the purpose of the lead is to summarize the main points in an article. I will, however, add the reason on why dancing and horse racing are banned to the article. Hugitt (talk) 09:18, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- It seems like Hugitt's revision keeps what was said before along with the sentiment of the sentence made by Medusahead. I'm glad we have a consensus. --1990'sguy (talk) 04:49, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- I too like the sentence the way it is now and information can be repeated in the lead because the purpose of the lead is to summarize the main points in an article. I will, however, add the reason on why dancing and horse racing are banned to the article. Hugitt (talk) 09:18, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Notable publications have found the dancing ban and horse racing ban to be relevant. Though your personal experience doesn't seem to reflect that, Wikipedia does not accept WP:Original Research but relies on reliable secondary sources. I oppose the deletion of these examples. Let's wait and see what others have to say, but per WP: BRD, you will let the material remain in the article now. --1990'sguy (talk) 04:09, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment
editThis article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 28 January 2019 and 25 May 2019. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): UMD Edit.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 22:32, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
The Methodist High Church Editor
editThroughout the entire English Wikipedia, someone of a particularly high church orientation in the United Methodist Church has systematically added entries on Methodism about ritual and practice that are not remotely common among Methodists. The author asserts that Methodists churches routinely use the crucifix and commonly engage in practices associated with Roman Catholicism and the Anglo-Catholic variant of Anglicanism that are extremely rare in Methodist practice worldwide. It is close to vandalism, inaccurate, and needs to stop. IACOBVS (talk) 22:18, 7 April 2023 (UTC)