Talk:Good Friday/Archive 2

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Good Friday not the same thing as Black Friday

In the introduction paragraph it states that Good Friday is also known as Black Friday which is not true. Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelStarbuck (talkcontribs) 16:49, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

And obviously two different events can't have the same name? Anyway I've added some citations about that. LjL (talk) 11:12, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 April 2012

Grenada

In Grenada, Kites are flown and there are kite flying competitions. They are often handmade with bamboo or the thin frames of dried banana leave, colorful tissue paper, glue or green sapodilla substitute, and string or twine. The shape of the kite and the use of wood is meant to symbolize the cross that Jesus died on. Also, the kite flying in the sky symbolizes his ascension to heaven. In church kids paint eggs and egg shells with pictures of Jesus and the like. Leroneb (talk) 14:17, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

OK, perhaps a shorter item like that, but you will need a WP:RS source that says that. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 14:25, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Dubious

Was it marked as also being called Black Friday because of a literal translation of a term in another language or is there actually some attested source referring to the day in English as “Black Friday?” (And if the former, do we really need to calque everything that's a compound in other languages to say it's also called X in English? If the latter, it seems Wiktionary would be a better place to list putative synonyms and even for providing that definition for that term.) mcornelius (talk) 10:39, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

That source provided is enough to withdraw my earlier objection but it still doesn't meet the standards of WP:SOURCES and another source ought to be found for that claim instead. (In particular, that book doesn't even have a bibliography so not just is it unverified, it's unverifiable.) mcornelius (talk) 11:00, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
OK, this issue's been resolved (although “Black Friday” is still a weird term for Good Friday :þ). mcornelius (talk) 11:20, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 29 March 2013

In Uk 'Good Friday' is a religious holiday, like Christmas Day, not a Bank Holiday

2.27.216.157 (talk) 21:02, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The current source at Bank Holiday says it is a bank holiday. https://www.gov.uk/bank-holidays. RudolfRed (talk) 01:03, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Good Friday is a Bank Holiday in Scotland only. See legislation here http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1971/80/schedule/1 MarpoHarks (talk) 15:14, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

marking this as closed again... if there's a requested change, it needs to be clear. Preferably in the form of "Change X to Y". EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 19:00, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Remove the Ku Klux Klan (KKK)image

The image of Ku Klux Klan (KKK) has to be removed. It has little to nothing to do with Resurrection or first fruits holiday. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samuelled (talkcontribs) 06:07, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Section 'Calculating the date'

Has : "Easter falls on the first Sunday following the Paschal Full Moon, the full moon on or after 21 March, taken to be the date of the vernal equinox."

Better? : "Easter falls on the first Sunday following the Paschal Full Moon, which represents the date of the full moon on or after 21 March, taken to represent the date of the vernal equinox."

I imagine that it must at all relevant times have been known both that the actual Equinox was not always and everywhere on Match 21st and also that the Paschal Full Moon would not agree exactly with the actual Full Moon.

94.30.84.71 (talk) 10:34, 21 January 2015 (UTC) please be peacefull — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.214.142.208 (talk) 05:12, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Dates of Churches in box

Nevermind, I fixed it.

Reason WAS stated for removing excessive information from intro

User:Crumpled Fire reverted my edits saying "rv massive removal of information from intro without reason". This is not true. I stated my reason. I said, "removed 2nd para re dates more suitable for crucifixion of Jesus article. This about the holiday as practice."

Crumpled Fire needs to be more careful and considerate before reverting changes, by at the very least, checking what was included the edit summaries. If Crumpled Fire disagrees with my WP:Bold edits then he can of course revert them and add a comment to this Talk page, but that requires showing editors the respect they deserve by taking the time to check and read the edit summaries.

Further, I stand by my judgement that the second paragraph is (a) not suitable for the intro and (b) not suitable for this artcile. The discussion of the date, year and day of Jesus crucifixion does not fit this article which is about the religious holiday as currently practed, not about the event. Thoughts? Let's reach a WP:Consensus. --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 06:39, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Since User:Crumpled Fire has not commented, nor have other commented, I will follow WP:silence and presume WP:consensus and remove the paragraph. --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 02:21, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

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This is just a small forum for any errors that may arise. Also, why is there Greek at the bit about the cross in the nave (at the end)?162.104.12.143 (talk) 00:27, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

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Prostration significance

I am a new editor and cannot find a source to back my knowledge of prostration being linked to the new ordination of priests. Dejavuici (talk) 12:25, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Have worked around this issues as I found the HTML "cheat sheet". Dejavuici (talk) 19:44, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

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Seven last words of Jesus on the Cross

The section of this article dealing with the trial and crucifixion of Jesus could mention that the seven last words of Jesus on the Cross were "Into thy hands I commit my Spirit". Vorbee (talk) 11:00, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

History

This section should be a history of the holiday. Content was added recently, but it doesn't look encyclopedic to me, nor is it referenced. I reverted, please discuss. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:06, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Review revert SVP

I reverted what was in the main a change by Abensen1 followed by 7 fix edits to that. Their change deleted text with cites replacing it with prose without such, added repetition of the Easter date discussion found in Easter, and in general did not seem an improvement. I'd left a notice of my concerns on their talk page. If anyone feels differently and can find useful text from the change please modify in accordance. Shenme (talk) 04:00, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Oh dear, it would seem that Gerda Arendts revert above and mine have a similarity - the Univ of Maryland. See user pages User:UMD Edit and User:Abenson1 and [1] I'll be dropping a query on each of User talk:Rebekahvalentine50, User talk:Sraj97, and User talk:Musicofasianamerica just be thoroughly disagreeable. Shenme (talk) 04:17, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
I don't understand. I saw that something was added to the history section, which was not about the history of the holiday, so reverted. Twice already, I think. It should be discussed here, not entered again and again, per WP:BRD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:11, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Mormons? Seventh-day Adventists? Jehovah's Witnesses?

Jehovah's Witnesses apparently don't celebrate holidays, but they do have a memorial for Jesus' death on Nisan 14. What about Mormons, SDA and/or some other Restorationist type Christians? We shouldn't ignore them. Geographyinitiative (talk) 04:48, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

This article is about Good Friday, which is a specific holiday rather than a generic reference to all celebrations/memorials of the death of Jesus. Observation of Jesus' death by Jehovah's Witnesses (and some other restorationist groups) is Quartodecimanism and is out of scope here. As I understand it, SDAs and Mormons recognise the timing of traditional Christian Easter celebrations, but do not place specific significance on Good Friday—that might be worthy of a mention if accurate and properly sourced.--06:22, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
Too complicated for me Geographyinitiative (talk) 11:16, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
Your (thankfully reverted) edit claiming that Good Friday is the same thing as Nisan 14 is simply wrong. Do not reinstate it.--Jeffro77 (talk) 12:28, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Empire of Jehovah

The Jehovahites of Empire of Jehovah commemorate the death of Jesus Christ on Nissan 14, which sometimes coincides with Christendom's "Good Friday", and very often is on the same week as it. Empire of Jehovah memorializes Jesus' death in harmony with the scripture "as often as you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives." (1st Corinthians 11:26). — Preceding unsigned comment added by KadGeb (talkcontribs) 17:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Noun

Was reading on article looking for explanation of term "Good" for Friday of Passion as am used to scandinavian term "Long". Stumbled upon term Royal Soldiers, quote "According to the accounts in the Gospels, the royal soldiers...". I did not check the sources, do understand that the main conflict was Jesus claim on being the King of Jews versus mundane kings, as in Render Onto Caesar parable, but physically doubted the term Royal used here, as jews were a colony having an appointed governor with royal lineage being interrupted, while Romans who were doing the arrest mentioned in wiki quote were rather Caesarian, a Ceasar is a tradition drastically different from a Roi giving adverb Royal, in spite of use of related latin verb Regio for "to rule" with slightly overlapping meanings absent in noun. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.46.190 (talk) 14:41, 10 April 2020 (UTC)