Talk:Good Karma

Official sources

http://www.wmg.com/news/new-single-and-album-swedish-icons-roxette-21236 - official Warner article http://www.roxette.se/ official Roxette webpage https://lnk .to/GoodKarma - iTunes page for album https://lnk .to/ItJustHappens - Spotify page for single

Renowned for Sound - Is it a serious/relevant review?

In all honesty, I don't think a review by a site like "Renowned for Sound" is relevant at all. That site was founded less than 5 years ago and it's ran by a confessed Roxette fan, of course his reviews tend to be indulgent and don't pretend to be objective. In addition, if you consider that for inclusion, any personal review you can find in personal websites and blogs should be considered as well. Manitobba (talk) 23:38, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Lyrics

Speaking about lyrics, I don't think it's necessary to mention Gessle's name with every song as he has written all the lyrics. Couldn't it be more like "All lyrics by Per Gessle"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aarojoraa (talk • contribs) 21:30, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

mittelbayerische Zeitung as reference?

haha its ridiculous im fan of the band

but the reference of the mittelbayerische zeitung is a joke ! rolling stone magazine , all music pitchfork those are good sources and not a paper which is unknown — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.247.242.115 (talk) 17:21, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Good Karma/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 10:40, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I will review this for the GAN backlog and I am prepared to take on translation! --K. Peake 10:40, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

• Thank you for the review! I believe I've done everything you've written below, with the exception of the one point I responded to. I hope you keep well, and look forward to the rest of your review. Please take as much time as you need. I wasn't expecting anyone to review it this soon, so there really is no rush. ;) Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 02:37, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• May 2014 – February 2016 → 2014 – 2016 because only the years are sourced
  • This is my bad. I added the months to the infobox, but somehow forgot to add those to the 'Credits and personnel' section. The months are included in the album booklet. I've done this now. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 02:37, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
• Remove venue parameter, as that is for live recordings only
• Add recording studios to the infobox but avoid the word studio per Template:Infobox album
• Name the two members of the duo in the first sentence
• "first and only studio album issued" → "first and only album issued" to avoid repetitiveness
• "The record contains production contributions" → "The album contains production contributions"
• Change the "with whom" part to being "among others" instead, as it is notable for the lead that others helped with production, not some previous collab
• The final release part is not directly mentioned anywhere in the body, plus remove lead singer introduction because it is in the body
• "The album was recorded over" → "Good Karma was recorded over"
• The Neverending World Tour should not be in speech marks per MOS:QUOTEMARKS
• The tour beginning in 2009 is not mentioned anywhere in the body
• "Good Karma is more electronic than" → "The album is more electronic than the duo's" with the target
• "preceded the album by" → "preceded the release of Good Karma by"
• "followed by official lead single" → "being followed by the lead single" with the wikilink
• Target singles to Single (music)
• "of eastern Europe, with the couple who created it receiving" → "of Eastern Europe; the couple who created it received"
• "The record received mostly positive reviews upon release, with multiple publications" → "The album received mostly positive reviews from music critics, with a number of them" with the target
• "It also performed well" → "The album also performed well"
• "the Czech Republic and number two in Switzerland and" → "the Czech Republic, alongside reaching number two in Switzerland and" to avoid repetition of "and"
• "since the 1990s in" → "since the 1990s in both"

Background and recording

• "The album features production contributions" → "Good Karma features production contributions"
• "with whom the duo had" → "with whom Roxette had"
• The "in order to retain control of the project" part is not properly sourced; maybe rewording accordingly to mentioning how they recorded in the studio after the duo?
• "in the autumn of 2015," → "during the Autumn of 2015,"
• "saying the band was" → "saying Roxette was"
• Remove target on remixers and mention that they were working with them for Good Karma
• Target single to Single (music)
• "released on 6 November" → "released on 6 November 2015"
• Wikilink music video
• Reword the img text to being relevant to the article, plus wikilink the duo members
• The source says he wanted it to sound like an updated album, unless my translator is faulty? If this is true, then reword and remove pop from genres; if false, then target pop to Pop music
• "elaborating: "We wanted to" → "elaborating: "[W]e wanted to"
• "towards the classic Roxette tradition,"" → "towards a classic Roxette tradition"," per the source and MOS:QUOTE
• "more electronic than previous releases." → "more electronic than the duo's previous releases." with the target
• "work on the album" → "work on it"
• Introduce Marie Fredriksson as lead singer instead
• The "set lists" part is not sourced, only that they performed the greatest hits for the tour
• The Neverending World Tour should not be in speech marks per MOS:QUOTEMARKS; also, try to mention when the tour started around this point
• "primarily of the duo's" → "primarily of Roxette's"
• "The album was recorded over a" → "Good Karma was recorded over a" and reword to mentioning the two years was from 2014 to 2016 per the source, as that interview was in the latter year
• "by the group's touring schedule." → "by the duo's touring schedule."
• "contained re-recordings of previously unreleased tracks" → "made usage of old ideas" per the source
• "on the lyric to" → "on the lyric"

Release and artwork

• "released on 18 May." → "released on 20 May." per the source, unless you can find another one stating elsewise
• "for the album and its singles" – the source only references the album's cover artwork; plus wikilink imagery
• "issued on multiple formats on 3 June,[15] including a limited edition translucent orange-coloured vinyl," → "released on 3 June 2016,[15] with a limited edition translucent orange-coloured vinyl being issued," with the target
• "as the band's final" → "as Roxette's final"
• The Neverending World Tour should not be in speech marks per MOS:QUOTEMARKS, plus mention the year this cancellation was
• "Marie sent a thank you" → "Fredriksson sent a thank you"
• Mention her "best album ever" quote per NME
• "for this version of" → "for the original version of" to be specific
• It is not sourced that Gessle specifically shared it, only Roxette themselves
• Wikilink social media
• "controversial in eastern Europe," → "controversial in their native Poland," per the source; fix this in the lead too
• "on 4 November." → "on 4 November 2016." but the EP release is not mentioned like the lead says about
• "and contained footage from" → "and contains footage from"
• "received in their native Poland." → "received in Poland."

Critical reception

• "The album received mostly positive reviews." → "Good Karma was met with mostly positive reviews from music critics." with the target
• Italicise Renowned for Sound
• "they said contained" → "they said contains"
• "... but also the ethereal" → "[...] but also features of the ethereal" for correct separation and that is what the quote really says
• "echoes of Cocteau Twins)."" → "echoes of Cocteau Twins)"." per MOS:QUOTE
• "They complimented it for" → "The writer complimented it for"
• Target pop to Pop music
• "flag flying high."" → "flag flying high"."
• Italicise Renowned for Sound and identify Brendon Veevers as being the one who gave the album a glowing review
• "saying it contained some" → "saying it contains some"
• "Cryptic Rock described it as" → "In Cryptic Rock, Alfie Vera Mella described the album as"
• "the duo's thirtieth anniversary," → "the duo's 30th anniversary," per MOS:NUM, plus remove the star rating from prose due to the box showing it
• Identify Tyler McLoughlan as being The Music reviewer
• "German news site Mittelbayerische Zeitung rated" → "The staff of Mittelbayerische Zeitung rated"
• Identify Kai Butterweck as being laut.de reviewer
• "said "Good Karma isn't" → "said: "Good Karma isn't"
• "nod to the past", elaborating: "Marie" → "nod to the past." He elaborated by stating that "Marie" because the former is a full sentence
• "this, they said" → "this, Butterweck said,"
• "the band "deliberately" → "the duo "deliberately"
• Identify Nils Hansson as being Dagens Nyheter reviewer
• Target electronic pop to Electropop
• Target autotune to Auto-Tune
• "and rave synths."" → "and rave synths"."
• "They additionally complained Fredriksson" → "Hansson additionally complained Fredriksson"
• Identify Jesper Robild as being Gaffa reviewer
• "songwriting talent, and criticized" → "songwriting talent and criticized"
• "they praised Fredriksson's performance, and said" → "he praised Fredriksson's performance and said"
• Identify Hannah McKee as being Stuff reviewer
• "was at times" → "is at times"
• Add release year of "It Must Have Been Love" in brackets
• "They described "April Clouds" as" → "She described "April Clouds" as"
• "Although Göteborgs-Posten also" → "Although the staff of Göteborgs-Posten also"
• "the album was best when" → "the album is best when"
• Put some of this review into your own words since too much is currently quoted, plus cut down the amount the review focuses on "April Clouds"
• "which dubbed it one" → "with Anders Nunstedt dubbing it one"
• "would act as a "beautiful goodbye" should this be" → "acts as a "beautiful goodbye" if this is"

Commercial performance

• The Sweden info should be first since native countries always start this section, plus the Czech Republic will follow then Switzerland
• Remove the "was a commercial success upon release" part
• "debuting atop the Czech Albums Chart as their" → "debuted atop the Czech Albums Chart, standing as their" with the target
• "The record peaked at number two" → "Good Karma peaked at number two"
• You can move the Switzerland position to being after the Czech one by saying the album was also held off the top spot in the country by Seal the Deal & Let's Boogie without reintroducing the performer
• "made the top ten in" → "made the top 10 in" per MOS:NUM
• "Hungary, and Spain." → "Hungary and Spain."
• "debuted at number eleven, making it their first" → "debuted at number 11, making it Roxette's first"
• "their international breakthrough in 1989 to peak outside the top ten" → "their second studio album Look Sharp! (1988) in 1989 to peak outside the top 10" (it was released in 1988 but charted the next year)
• Target German Albums Chart to GfK Entertainment charts
• "It peaked even higher on the" → "It attained a higher peak position on the" for more neutral language
• Target Scottish Albums Chart to Scottish Singles and Albums Charts
• "where it debuted at number 44." → "debuting at number 44."
• The highest placement since 1994 is unsourced, but you could mention it being their first studio album to chart since 2011

Track listing

• Invoke [17] after the lyrics and music sentence to verify this
• See MOS:TABLECAPTION

Personnel

• Target mastered to Mastering (audio)
• Wikilink Stockholm
• Wikilink music manager to itself per MOS:LINK2SECT
• Wikilink Marie Fredriksson
• Wikilink Per Gessle
• Wikilink Christoffer Lundquist
• Wikilink Clarence Öfwerman

Charts

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION

References

• Copyvio score looks very good at 27.0%!
• Top job with the archiving here!
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 2 and target The Huffington Post to HuffPost
• Cite Apple Music as publisher instead for refs 3 and 23, plus remove it from the titles
• Remove Renowned For Sound from the title for ref 4
• Cite Warner Music Group as publisher instead for ref 6
• WP:OVERLINK of Renowned For Sound on refs 7 and 39, plus cite as work instead for the latter
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 10 and cite T-Online as publisher instead
• MSN.com → MSN on ref 13, citing as publisher instead
• WP:OVERLINK of Expressen on ref 14
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with refs 18 and 30
• WP:OVERLINK of Billboard on ref 19
• Authorlink Gavin Edwards (writer) on ref 21
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 24 and cite Warner Music Group as publisher instead
• WP:OVERLINK of The Huffington Post on ref 25
• Cite NaTemat.pl as publisher instead for refs 27 and 32, plus remove wikilink for the latter
• Cite Interia as publisher instead for ref 33
• WP:OVERLINK of Aftonbladet on ref 34
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 38 and remove laut.de from the title
• Remove Stuff.co.nz from the title of ref 41 and cite Stuff as publisher instead
• Add language parameter for refs 43 and 44

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; nice to see you made progress in the midst of my review though! --K. Peake 10:01, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

• Thanks so much for the expedited and thorough review @Kyle Peake: I believe I've resolved everything you wrote above. Let me know if there's any more I can do. Kind regards, Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 02:41, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

• Homeostasis07 You still need to remove the word studio from the infobox, remove the part from the lead about the previous collab with Addeboy vs. Cliff, target electronic to Electronic music there, target vinyl to Phonograph record, add the year after 4 November and mention the EP release. --K. Peake 07:56, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

• Sorry @Kyle Peake: I must have misunderstood or accidentally skipped over a couple of your points. I've fixed these now. Thanks for your edits to the article, and for your patience and effort in reviewing it. Let me know if there's anything else I can do. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 23:26, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

• Homeostasis07 ✓ Pass now, great to have helped promote another GA during the backlog drive and I re-added "among others" to the lead because you must have accidentally removed that when getting rid of the previous collab info. --K. Peake 06:42, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

• I thought I scared people off with my note about the article making use of several different languages. Thanks so much for your time and effort! The article looks great now. ;) Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 00:55, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Eddie891 (talk) 00:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that Roxette's final studio album Good Karma was recorded in a studio named "Tits & Ass"?
  • ALT1: ... that Roxette released their final studio album Good Karma in 2016?
  • ALT2: ... that Roxette's final studio album, 2016's Good Karma, was recorded in a studio named "Tits & Ass"?

• Comment: All claims sourced in the Good Karma article. First DYK nomination. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 00:02, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Improved to Good Article status by Homeostasis07 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:02, 14 March 2021 (UTC).

• article checks out, no requirement for QPQ, both hooks are good. Of course, I like proposed T&A hook, and have to assume good faith on the liner notes, but a cursory Google seems to verify that it was a real thing! Content to allow promoter to choose whichever hook, but noting are poles apart in hookiness... The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

• I added ALT2, which merges the first two suggestions together. I'd be happy with anything. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 00:02, 20 March 2021 (UTC)