Talk:Good girl art

Page move?

Does anyone else think that Good Girl Art ought to move to Good-girl art, and the corresponding page Bad Girl Art, which I just made, belongs instead at Bad-girl art? Smerdis of Tlön 19:06, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Page was moved

It was moved from "Good-girl art" to "Good Girl Art" because the phrase has no hyphen. A check with Google indicates that for every two results with a hyphen, there are 98 without a hyphen. Pepso 08:06, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

The hyphen isn't the main concern; it can be omitted. My question is about capitalization; see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization). The articles should be Good girl art and Bad girl art in that case. Smerdis of Tlön 14:23, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix and the clarification. I would say "Good girl art" is an art movement, and thus I looked at the page on [Abstract expressionism]. It has a lower case "e" in the heading, but a CAP "e" in the first sentence. That format on Abstract Expressionism seems preferable to me for all art movements. There are some other curious issues related to Good Girl Art. What is good... the girl or the art? I always assumed it meant that the art was good. Note that Dick Lupoff's definition embraces girls that are good and bad. Pepso 14:51, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, and similarly, bad girl art is a movement and style similarly fixed in time, and as a general artistic style, it includes heroines as well as villainesses. Here, though, it doesn't seem to have been meant as a comment that the art was bad, but instead that the heroines' bad attitudes were reflected in the art. The judgment of "history", though, tends to run against the style, which now seems pretty dated and semi-comical. Smerdis of Tlön 19:04, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

To answer everyone's question on hyphen, no-hyphen, all cap or first word cap - may I clarify. As the wife of the person who coined the phrase and has typed it into paper catalogs and on computers for over 30 years, I can clarify that it is GGA - Good Girl Art. Not Gga or Bga or gga. It is GGA = Good Girl Art. What better source to answer your questions than from the man (or wife who typed it for over 3 decades) who created the term in the first place. Hope this has helped all those who have enquiring minds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.65.63.10 (talk) 15:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Since we are so close to the source, I'd love a clarification about a controversy. Is the term relative to "the art of good girls" or is it "girl art that is good"? - 187.20.65.171 (talk) 14:34, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Torchy5.jpg

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BetacommandBot 19:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Rangers26.jpg

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Vince Colletta

I'm not sure where to find the sandbox.

Please advise whether the information and JPEG I sent were specific enough to the subject of Good girl art and whether they can be included.

If so, I will attempt to figure out how to properly re-submit it.

Thank you,

Franklin222 (talk) 03:05, 17 September 2009 (UTC)Franklin222

Your edits were reverted as being test edits, as they used malformed wiki-syntax. This could be fixed, however, this page is really already pushing boundaries of the amount of art it can reasonable have, with 4 non-free images and little specific rationale for their use. It is very unlikely that any addition of further non-free images would be appropriate, so while your efforts are appreciated, it is best to not try to add the image again. If it is non-free, you could post it here on the talk page, so editors can decide how to best use it (note, even if the creator is glad for it to be included on wiki, this does not make it free - he would need to release it into the public domain). Thanks again!YobMod 09:33, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Adjectives

I find myself balking at the use of the adjectives "creamy" and "iridescent" when describing Good Girl Art. I'm not entirely sure why, it just seems out of place in an encyclopedia to use descriptions with these sorts of connotations. Atypicaloracle (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:57, 10 October 2010 (UTC).

Sources

I am preserving these older sources here. Possibly, probably not RS.

• Jim Burrows: Cheesecake and the Art of the Pin-Up. Illustrated book-length study on origins of cheesecake art to the present.
• Jim Burrows: "Strong Women in Comics." Illustrated survey of Good Girl Art

--Lightbreather (talk) 00:39, 21 December 2014 (UTC)