Hi Jules*, I don't see how any part of this article is edited for pay or the page itself created for pay. Please can you explain your reasoning? This a an article about a past president of a country, so I wonder why somebody will pay somebody to edit or create it. I'm waiting for your response. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 16:49, 14 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
- @Jules*: Please respond to this message or I'll remove the template without anymore explanation. I can't see anywhere Mujibvisa edited this page, please clarify. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 16:57, 14 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
- [edit conflict] Hi Idoghor Melody. Did you check the links I provided? Edits made in 2015 by Mujibvisa are UPE, very likely for a large economic intelligence French firm, Avisa Partners, who edited numerous Wikipedia articles with (sometimes subtle) POV.
- These edits should be carefuly reviewed, even if old, before to remove the UPE template. Best, — Jules* talk 17:00, 14 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
- Why this hurry? Can you let me enough time to reply? Why do you say "without anymore explanation", I gave an explanation in the diff. "I can't see anywhere Mujibvisa edited this page": so you didn't look hard enough. Best, — Jules* talk 17:02, 14 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
- PS: If you reviewed the article and it is OK, you are welcome to remove the template; I just want to be sure it has been reviewed. — Jules* talk 17:13, 14 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
- @Jules*: Agreed I didn't look hard enough as I only saw a part and I was hoping for something very recent. Tagging a page with UPE for an edit made in 2015(7 years ago) doesn't sounds nice. A lot has changed in the article over the years and many experienced editors have this page under their watchlist. I reacted quickly to this in good faith as it is on my watchlist, and I didn't see anything that warrant the tag. Imagine tagging Elizabeth II with UPE for an edit made 7 years ago... It does seem somehow, doesn't it? The article in it's current state is very ok and doesn't require that tag. It should be removed, I hope you understand.
- Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 17:14, 14 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
- OK, with that explanation. En-wp is not my home wiki, so I always tag with UPE articles which have been subject to UPE; I reverted you because you removed the template without any comment. But be aware that this agency edited articles on fr-wp about known people (not Elizabeth II though) in a lot of watchlists, such as fr:Bernard Arnault, but with subtle enough edits to not be noticed. — Jules* talk 17:27, 14 September 2022 (UTC)Reply