Talk:Goyslop

Should 'goyslop' refer to food only, or subversive media/culture in general?

While it usually refers to food - I've seen movies, video games, political ideologies, and other forms of media and culture labeled as "goyslop" too Apallo334 (talk) 05:50, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

Well we don't want to WP:SYNTH, however You could try and change the lead, from "mass produced products" to mass media, however "subversive"might break WP:N 2x2x2x2x2 (talk) 15:30, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

Is it used for food?

I've only heard heard it used for internet content Orangeorang1 (talk) 01:14, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

It’s used for both, as seen in the sources. Mass media and Mass produced things usually fall into the definition of Goyslop 2x2x2x2x2 (talk) 13:18, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Hate to be that person, but Wikipedia:NOTFOURM. OrbitalVoid49 (talk) 15:54, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Lack of academic resources

The articles listed include a conference paper from IEEE, not a social sciences organization, and a Russian language 3,5 page article which's authority cannot be verified. With the current state of the article it should carry the unbalanced template.

• Comment: Revision rationale: "I have tagged this article for balance. This is a major historical topic that currently relies too heavily on modern US news media. We need to incorporate more academic, historical, and global sources to properly balance the perspective and reduce recentism. I also removed the Russian language article as there was no way to verify it's authenticity. I couldn't find the institution it's from nor the paper title etc"

~2026-36558-83 (talk) 22:03, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

This {Unbalanced} template is not appropriate at all. No specific neglected viewpoint has been identified; the WP:RS appear to broadly agree on the term’s antisemitic origin while noting some casual later usage. A lack of more academic sources is not a neutrality problem, you've got to understand that for a recent internet slang term, contemporary media/culture sources are good. Unless a specific WP:RS viewpoint is missing, the tag should be gone. 2x2x2x2x2 (talk) 04:40, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Also, here is the russian paper I found, https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Goyslop%22. It's the first result 2x2x2x2x2 (talk) 04:45, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

The Russian paper is still questionable when it comes to it's credibility. We don't know if it is a peer reviewed paper or a conference abstract. What's more important is that not one source in this article is by a sociolinguist, sociologist, or even a social scientist. Huge majority of them are journalists, some of them zionists and none of them anti-zionists. To define a word's meaning and its affects on people requires sociological and linguistic enterprise, which none of the journalist cited carry. The only reason I'd recommend the unbalanced template and not nominate it for deletion is that I believe it has room to expand with upcoming academic work. Journalists are not sociolinguists and they can only report incidents regarding the term. If we use those journalist reports to try to understand to term what we are doing is Original Research. The google scholar articles currently cited carry the previous risks stated. ~2026-36795-60 (talk) 20:54, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Usage of the term without intent that is free from Antisemitism

I'm just wondering whether the amount of usage of the term without intent that is free from Antisemitism would make describing the term in the first sentence as antisemitic be WP:UNDUE. 🔥Jothefiredragon🐲talk🐉contrib(s)✨log🌟mail🎉global🎊 15:50, 6 August 2026 (UTC)

considering the term is literally "goy" slop, id argue that it is fundamentally impossible for there to be a non- antisemitic usage. do you have any sources that could back up the possibility of a non- antisemitic use? Jackjd0 (talk) 17:12, 6 August 2026 (UTC)

Well, there's this:

This section is an excerpt from Goyslop § Mainstream and youth usage.[edit]

By 2026, The New York Times reported that use of goyslop had spread well beyond far-right online communities into ordinary teenage slang, including among Jewish students, often stripped of its original antisemitic intent. One New Jersey high schooler interviewed by the paper estimated that most students at his school were familiar with the term, and said that although he understood its origins in antisemitic conspiracy theory, his peers used it simply to criticize corporations rather than Jews. The New York Times compared this trajectory to other instances of fringe internet jargon "breaking containment" into mainstream youth speech, largely shorn of its original political meaning, while cautioning that such normalization can also allow extremist ideas to enter the mainstream through "glib, uninterrogated jokes". The Anti-Defamation League criticized the New York Times column, saying that teenage adoption did not change the term's origin as an antisemitic slur rooted in white supremacist conspiracy theories.

🔥Jothefiredragon🐲talk🐉contrib(s)✨log🌟mail🎉global🎊 20:14, 6 August 2026 (UTC)

ok yea i think i misunderstood your initial comment, i missed the word "intent" which i think is kind of the kicker here. i think one's intent in using the word isnt necessarily relevant in this case when it is so inherently built on and around antisemitic conspiracy. like, within that quote, it says people are using it to criticise corporations, not jewish people- but by doing this, even though there may not be Concious antisemitic intent, they are still contributing to antisemitism by using it this way because the usage equates jewishness with being a person in power. someone can contribute to and participate in bigotry without being aware or intending it, and i think removing it from that front and center place would be kind of whitewashing it's real meaning and history Jackjd0 (talk) 21:54, 6 August 2026 (UTC)

This is coming from the page author, 2x2x2x2. If you look at the lead, " [...]framed by conspiracy theorists". Does this not solve the case? ~2026-43736-21 (talk) 05:56, 8 August 2026 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 August 2026

Goyslop is also used as an antisemitic dog whistle for both white supremacists and zionists. ~2026-45086-44 (talk) 03:26, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jackjd0 (talk) 03:40, 18 August 2026 (UTC)