Talk:Great Dane

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Signed and dated for archive purposes only. William Harris • (talk) • 10:18, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Hunting dog section - relevance?

A section exists named "Hunting dog". Despite being very interesting, what has this section got to do with the Great Dane? There is no logical link with the previous nor next section of the article. William Harris • (talk) • 11:40, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

The so-called Great Dane was bred in Germany with the help of imported from England mastiff-like dogs. Namely for the hunt for heavy game. That's why these dogs were called English mastiffs (German: "Englische Dogge" / "Englischer Hund") for a long time. Even the dog kennels for these dogs were called "English Stables".--Zuviele Interessen (talk) 09:51, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Zuviele Interessen, you state "...with the help of imported from England mastiff-like dogs..." Where is the reference that states that these dogs went into the Dane mix, as per my comment above nearly a year ago? You will need to either support the relevance of the "Englische Dogge" with a reliable source or revert your revert of my edit. William Harris • (talk) • 10:01, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

There are a variety of sources in the recovered section.--Zuviele Interessen (talk) 13:44, 1 May 2019 (UTC) P.S. For example, what Charles Hamilton Smith wrote here about the Mastiffs of the Continent, which he saw in the electorate of Saxony, is not wrong.--Zuviele Interessen (talk) 14:14, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

It is not my task to trawl through numerous citations to see if I can find one that states that the "Englische Dogge" is related to the Great Dane - it is up to the editor who proposes that idea, and to clearly cite it. Regarding the sources provided - yes, German nobles imported English Mastiffs, as they did other dogs. Yes, these were fine beasts. However, who has actually stated that these mastiffs went into the Great Dane mix? Charles Hamilton Smith on the link that you sent me is not referred to in the article. That text does not mention the Dane in the section on the English Mastiff, and the Dane is mentioned only 3 times in the entire text - I cannot see your point in providing it. At this present time, the piece of writing that you have re-instated appears to be relevant only to the history section of the English Mastiff article and does not belong in the Great Dane. What we have here appears to be WP:SYNTH - to "combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources". William Harris • (talk) • 09:33, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, you did not understand that "Great Dane" is just an English name for the Dogge. Please read the Archives on this page.--Zuviele Interessen (talk) 09:49, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Thankyou Too many interests (Zuviele Interessen), I see in the archives that this issue was well-discussed. You have also had involvement in this matter. The result of that discussion has not made its way into the article very clearly due to its complexity. My simple approach - the name "Englische Dogge" appears in the FCI Great Dane Breed Standard!

"Later, particular names such as Ulmer Dogge, English Dogge, Great Dane, Hatzrüde (Hunting Dog), Saupacker (boarfinder) and Grosse Dogge (Great Dogge), classified these dogs according to colour and size. In the year 1878 a Committee of seven was formed in Berlin, consisting of active breeders and judges with Dr. Bodinus in the chair, which made the decision to classify all the forenamed varieties as “Deutsche Doggen” (Great Danes)." William Harris • (talk) • 11:59, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

"Molossoid" is an unusual term and should be explained the first time that it is used. S C Cheese (talk) 22:21, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Merger proposal:Brindlequin

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was redirect. Cavalryman (talk) 13:49, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

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CountessCobra (talk · contribs) nominated Brindlequin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for merging with this article on 24 September 2019:

• the Brindlequin article has only one source which does not actually mention the colour “brindlequin”, whilst
• the Great Dane article already mentions the colour “brindlequin”

Therefore I propose a simple redirect to Great Dane#Coat. Cavalryman (talk) 09:48, 5 December 2019 (UTC).

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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