Talk:Gurdev Singh Gill (physician)

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 17:51, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that Gurdev Singh Gill was the first Canadian physician of Indian descent to practice medicine? Source: CBC
  • ALT1: ... that Indian-born Canadian physician Gurdev Singh Gill was an inductee into the Order of British Columbia in its inaugural year in 1990 along with the likes of musician Bryan Adams? Source: https://sacda.ca/Detail/objects/18445
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Melvin Ramsay

Created by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 06:46, 27 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gurdev Singh Gill (physician); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• ALT0.A: ... that Gurdev Singh Gill was the first Canadian physician of Indian descent? Source: CBC

• Article is new enough, long enough, prose is good (a sentence in the bio is a tad long and awkward), no copyright violations on text. One thing: I'm not sure of the copyright on the photo. I'm not an expert on Canadian copyright law so bear with me. On Commons it's tagged with uncertain author information, and I'm not seeing any obvious proof that the photo itself was released under the Open Government License. I'm not sure if the OGL includes or excludes photos of people. Furthermore, on Wikimedia Commons it says Note that any work originating in Canada must be in the public domain, or available under a free license, in both Canada and the United States before it can be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons.. I'm not sure his photo would be available in the United States for that matter.

If we can't solve this, simplest solution is to remove the photo from the article. Harder but better solution is to upload a WP:NONFREE image. toobigtokale (talk) 03:28, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

@Toobigtokale: many thanks for the review. I have nominated the image for deletion at commons. In the meantime, please advise me of the sentence that is long and awkward, I will work on revising the same. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 04:02, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I just submitted prose changes to the article, please review. Also, we don't necessarily need to wait on the image's deletion until this nomination gets approved. If you remove the image from the infobox, I'm willing to start moving to approval. I liked reading his story btw, he came to the Americas in a pioneering time for Indian immigrants. toobigtokale (talk) 04:19, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks @Toobigtokale:. The edit looks great. I have removed the image as we wait for the image to be deleted. Quick qn for you - I have asked this question and have got many different answers. What is an appropriate time after the article subject's death to upload a WP:FAIRUSE image in case a copyright appropriate image does not surface / is not found? In the past, I have heard 6 months, 2 months, and anytime after death. Appreciate your input if possible. Ktin (talk) 04:29, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Hm I wasn't aware there was any such time restriction on fair use. I'm not seeing one mentioned on the page. Can you point me to anything or have you heard any reasoning behind a time delay? Does it have to do with "No free equivalent" in WP:NFCCP? toobigtokale (talk) 04:40, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Been a few years now and I am unable to find the conversation, but, the idea was that the time would be needed for any free images to come available during that time. Ktin (talk) 05:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Hmm... I don't have enough experience in this matter to make a judgement call. Most people I upload pics for are long dead. I'm willing to approve either no picture or non-free picture, although someone may weigh in later on. It's up to you; let me know what you decide and I'll approve. toobigtokale (talk) 11:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

@Toobigtokale: Thanks. This was the thread I had in mind. Wikipedia_talk:Good_article_nominations/Archive_24#Advice_on_image_licensing. So, let us go with this nomination without the image in the article. Ktin (talk) 15:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for sharing that, interesting read. I can see the rationale for it but I agree with one of the commenters: I'd want to see that in policy before thinking it's enforceable. Regardless, I'll follow your wishes.

Approve for ALT0.A (he was multiple things, but think this is the most powerful wording) toobigtokale (talk) 21:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)