Talk:Hans Landa
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Pride in "Jew Hunter" nickname
editI disagree with the line He is nicknamed "The Jew Hunter" in reference to his keen ability to locate Jews hiding throughout France, a nickname he feels he's earned and wears with a certain measure of pride.
Late in the film when he is speaking to Aldo and Omar in the bar, he expresses his dislike of the nickname and asserts that he's just a detective doing a job. To me this is most likely his true feelings. His earlier statements about liking the nickname is making sure the French farmer was aware of his reputation as the "Jew Hunter" as it would help in breaking his will. I believe the line in the article should be altered to reflect this, but I can't find the words. 75.141.231.101 (talk) 13:23, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Does this character deserve an article?
editI am not sure the character of Hans Landa, albeit it is a very interesting one, deserves a whole article. It seems to me that almost all the sources given are about Waltz or about the film rather than about Landa himself. Other opinions? Goochelaar (talk) 11:45, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, they're all about Landa in the film or Waltz's performance of the character, I would imagine. It has more than enough content to be separate [and I've only begun to work on it]. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 16:27, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- If there's no article for other iconic Tarantino characters like Jules Winfield or King Schultz, I don't think Landa should get his own article - Saucy Jimmy, 21:17, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Austro-German
editWhat information suggests that the character is Austro-German? Is it simply that Waltz is Austrian? Does Landa speak German with an Austrian accent in the film, or does the character wear some sort of insignia indicating his heritage? It would probably be beneficial to reveal where this information comes from. Chell484 (talk) 21:42, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
- austrian accent —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.43.149.150 (talk) 07:03, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- He also mentions to Monsieur LaPadite that the Reich took him from his home in the Austrian mountains.IJVin (talk) 04:25, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
Advertising
editI deleted the line about the individual from Slashfilm, but was told it was vandalism. This appears to be promotion for Slashfilm, and for the writer in question. This seems out of place to me, and I believe it should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.15.59.31 (talk) 19:41, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
- It's certainly not advertising, it's procedure. Why shouldn't we specify who made the comment? Just because it promotes both the site and the writer does not mean that it is intended as promotion of either. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:51, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
You should certainly identify the source of the comment - that's what footnotes/reference are for, are they not? This blogger is directly referenced twice in this entry, which seems very un-encyclopedic to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.15.59.31 (talk) 21:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
- To take two statements from one author is unencyclopedic? How so? It is only an issue because the statements are split up. Should we just say that "someone said such and such"? - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Are you joking? Is it really worthwhile to state in a wikipedia author that a blogger felt that the actor would win an academy award? What does that add to the article? And the fact that a blogger has an opinion about some symbolism (the pipe/milk) - is he an expert? What are you, this guy's pal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.15.59.31 (talk) 14:02, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- He must be one heck of a blogger to do a direct interview with one of the biggest actors of 2009. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 18:33, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
"Hermann"??
editThe article states that the German name "Hermann" would contain the parts "Herr" (Mr.) and "Mann" (man). However, the German "Hermann" comes from "Heer" and "Mann", meaning soldier (as an "Army man"). Without proper citation, I would suggest removing this part from the Analysis section. 129.69.94.118 (talk) 07:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- I agree, Hermann is just an ordinary german name, and bears none of these connotations to the native speaker (I am one...). It was quite a popular and common name in Nazi germany. Interestingly, Landa is not a common German name and is found more often in Russian and Czech. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.74.8.80 (talk) 11:14, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Well, but since it's very common in Austria having slavic, especially Czech, names it's fitting. This is still a leftover from the monarchy and many names considered "typically viennese" like "Nowak" are slavic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.127.155.19 (talk) 03:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
The Hitler family were Sudeten Germans and Waldheim was of Slavic descent originally Watlawik from VáclavíkRichardBond (talk) 18:36, 2 July 2012 (UTC) Hitler family not sudeten German, just Austrian from core Austria 178.210.114.106 (talk) 13:34, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Landa is in the Gestapo
editThe SD diamond on Landa's Sleeve with the white piping around it shows he is in the Gestapo or has Gestapo affilation. Only Gestapo Officers wore the SD diamond w/ white piping. Other units under the RSHA (Reich Security Office) just wore the SD diamond with no piping. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.127.92.112 (talk) 04:39, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Never heard of that before. Do you have a source? -OberRanks (talk) 05:05, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- His "SD" patch means he is in the Sicherheitsdienst. Which was the intelligence agency within the SS, and separate from the Gestapo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.238.70.110 (talk) 01:00, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Removal of Awards Lists
editI saw his award list was blanked as "in-universe trivia". Any thoughts on this? -OberRanks (talk) 21:02, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
- I can't recall the character's awards and decorations playing a major role in the film. However, we could mention some of them in the process of covering costume design for Hans Landa, if there is any such coverage from secondary sources. Erik (talk | contribs) 21:10, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
- I saved them on an internal user sub-page. If someone would like to re-add them, I can again provide the list. -OberRanks (talk) 21:38, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Revisted
editHis decorations are discussed in a few film literature books. I found a reference in a book called "Himmler's Troops" or something like that. Perhaps we should leave the list in? -OberRanks (talk) 18:41, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Phishing site
editLink #4 points to a phishing site. 46.212.58.36 (talk) 04:19, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
- I've moved this issue down to have its own heading. I guess the concern at play has probably been resolved in the intervening six+ years. Dingolover6969 (talk) 03:13, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
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After the events of the film
editHey User:Samurai Kung fu Cowboy, I think it's important that we mention in the article text what the source is for information about landa after the end of the film, because otherwise readers will assume the information was contained in the film (perhaps in an intertitle) or in some other source, like a novelization.
I also use the verbiage of "mused" because it didn't seem to me, listening to the podcast, that Tarantino had committed himself to anything.
Anyhow, I hope you find these considerations about how the page should be edited convincing. See ya! Dingolover6969 (talk) 07:16, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- User:Dingolover6969 It says after the events of the film. And I agree that it makes sense to use it. However, this page is for the character who appears in the film. Not the film. Once the character has his own page, not only is it important to include information about him not shown or mentioned in the film but if it's not used, then the page doesn't even serve a purpose. As far as musing, I don't know. The character is already a figment of his imagination. If it's what he's publicly stating happened to him then it's what happened to him, unless for some reason he later states it's not but I've never known him to waffle on a character. Not our place to attempt to figure out just how serious he was. Definitely our job to figure out the validity of the source but in this case the source is as good as we can get on this. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 04:35, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
"Original Research" tag on Hans Landa's demands
editIs an "Original Research" tag really correct/necessary here? As the previous editor who put it in wrote, it's "correct," but I don't think I've seen other cases where WP articles on characters discussing plot points in media/art they appear in actually cite said media/art (i.e., you don't cite "Shakespeare, William (1695)" in the article for Romeo Montague). Also, "Original Research" is supposed to point out material "for which no reliable, published sources exist" -- but we have one: The movie itself. Saying recounting plot points from the original media without citation constitutes "original research" is... pretty problematic for much of Wikipedia.
Just for future reference, and because I have a minute, here's a transcript of Hans Landa's relevant lines:
“ | So when the military history of this night is written, it will be recorded that I was part of Operation Kino from the very beginning as a double agent, anything I've done in my guise as an SS Colonel was sanctioned by the OSS as a necessary evil to establish my cover with the Germans, and it was my placement of Lieutenant Raine's dynamite in Hitler and Goebbels' opera box that assured their demise... I want my full military pension and benefits under my proper rank, I want to receive the Congressional Medal of Honor for my invaluable assistance in the toppling of the Third Reich, in fact, I want all the members of Operation Kino to receive the Congressional Medal of Honor, full citizenship for myself -- Well, that goes without saying -- and I would like the United States of America to purchase property for me on Nantucket Island as a reward for all the countless lives I've saved by bringing the tyranny of the National Socialist party to a swifter-than-imagined end. Do you have all that, sir? | ” |