Talk:Harriet Hosmer

Question about Zenobia

Can anyone confirm that the sculpture of Zenobia is, in fact, at the Metropolitan Museum of Art? I had thought that the location was unknown for all of the full-size versions of this sculpture. I have seen Hosmer's bust of Zenobia on display elsewhere. I could not find Zenobia in the database on the Metropolitan Museum's website. If you know, I would be very grateful if you would share. Juniaskid (talk) 04:20, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Nice catch. It looks like the original "Zenobia in Chains" is NOT at the MMA, rather, it is at the Wadsworth Atheneum according to the Smithsonian's Inventory of American Sculpture. I'll go ahead and make the change (and include the cite). --Quartermaster (talk) 13:26, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Additional information: according to the same Smithsonia database inventory, this record indicates that a 7 foot Zenobia was "Formerly located at Metropolitan Museum of Art." --Quartermaster (talk) 13:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Even more information: And now you've REALLY got me going. According to:

Waller, Susan. The Artist, the Writer, and the Queen: Hosmer, Jameson, and "Zenobia", Woman's Art Journal, Vol. 4, No. 1 (Spring - Summer, 1983), pp. 28

The original work was sold in 1864 to Almon Griswold of New York; copies were ordered by Mrs. Potter Palmer of Chicago, Robert W. Emmons of Boston, and Alexander T. Stewart of New York. The Wadsworth Atheneum, Hartford, owns a 49" full-length reduction; the Watertown Public Library, Massachusetts, has a 17" bust. A photograph of the original sculpture appears in Carr, Hosmer, opposite 200. A photograph of what seems to be another full-scale full-length version appears in Loredo Taft, The History of American Sculpture (New York: MacMillan, 1930), 209; this version differs from that in Carr in the treatment of the belt buckle. Taft's photograph is credited to the Metropolitan Museum, which exhibited the work in 1912 and returned it to its owners.

--Quartermaster (talk) 13:49, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Zenobia Found!!!

Hooray! It turns out that the original "Zenobia in Chains" has been lost for more than a century. My sleuthing tracked it down to the Campbell Funeral Church around 1920, then nothing. All of a sudden, I find this press release from the Huntington which announces their acquisition of the "recently rediscovered" Zenobia. The article now reflects this new found knowledge (with cite). One more microscopic victory for accuracy in Wikipedia! --Quartermaster (talk) 17:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Landmark named in her honor

Harriet Hosmer climbed to the top of "Mt Hosmer" a river bluff overlooking the town of Lansing,Iowa sometime in 1850's it is one the highest bluffs along the course of the Upper Mississippi, the bluff was then named in her honor so I assume she was a noted artist at the time this event occurred. As i have heard it she was passing through Lansing on a Riverboat and won a foot race to the top. I know this as I grew up there but do not know how to document it, I think it would be an important addition to the article as so few Topographical Landmarks are named in honor of contemporary American Women and is an example of her notoriety in her time. Today Mt Hosmer is a City Park of Lansing with great views, trails, native woodland and picnic sights. She is credited in the Wiki entry of Mt Hosmer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chazran (talk • contribs) 07:17, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

New edit 12/4/15

Acknowledging new point of emphasis in the lede by Hessrh. As this was not referenced in the main article, I have replicated it there, and transferred the citation accordingly. Valetude (talk) 12:14, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Louisa Caroline Stewart-Mackenzie

Seems to mainly notable due to relationships to other notable people, but notability WP:NOTINHERITED. Seems like Harriet Hosmer is the best merge target, but that might just be due to the POV of the Louisa Caroline Stewart-Mackenzie article. A merge to Robert Browning is another possibility. GretLomborg (talk) 17:58, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

A merge to her husband's article, Bingham Baring, 2nd Baron Ashburton, seems more natural. There is already a paragraph there. Verbcatcher (talk) 18:16, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Good point, I agree with it. - GretLomborg (talk) 18:35, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Separate. These are all separate people, so keep the articles separate. Carptrash (talk) 21:34, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

No need to merge, keep separate. Xxanthippe (talk) 04:21, 19 July 2017 (UTC).

The issue is whether Stewart-Mackenzie meets the notability threshold described in Wikipedia:Notability (people). If not then the article should not be in Wikipedia – it should either be merged or completely deleted. Verbcatcher (talk) 16:49, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Keep. She seems plenty notable enough to me, portraits painted, photographs taken famous friends, maybe a book about her. In any case wikipedia is trying to increase the number of articles about women not decrease them. I am looking her up in my very limited home library and found a nice reference with a good quote or two that may not make her more notable but certainly (opinion) makes her more interesting. Carptrash (talk) 17:27, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

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