Talk:Heavy Metal (film)

Copyright problems

Am I wrong or was Sammy Hagar's song "Heavy Metal" used for the original theatrical release but replaced on the VHS and DVD release? I seem to remember that song for the opening sequence, but its been replaced by some other (really crappy) song for the home versions of the movie. If this is the case (needs confirmation first), we should add the info to the article. — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:21, Sep 22, 2004 (UTC)

No you are not wrong. Yes, yes it was used as the main theme song for the movie. WikiDon 15:53, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

This was corrected with the VHS re-release of 1996.--RedKnight 02:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I just saw the DVD version and it does not have Hagar's "Heavy Metal" for the opening sequence. It's that crappy and generic song I mentioned earlier. Someone doesn't have their facts straight. — Frecklefoot | Talk 00:30, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

What about the 12" LaserDisc release? (Which does have the unfinished segment as a special feature.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.100.250.189 (talk) 09:33, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Music / Soundtrack

The music and/or soundtrack to this movie was a big deal, but there is no mention of it in the article. WikiDon 15:48, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

I added what I know, but I couldn't find any info outside of that. I'd love for it to be expanded into great detail. That whole copyright thing had me curious for years. I kept waiting for it to come out on video and it never did... — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:26, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I did some digging and found this tidbit. It's not very much. The author says that "some of the songs went out of copyright." This is certainly not true—all the songs are very much still under copyright protection. I think what he meant was the movie maker's use of some of the songs was only covered for the general theatrical release and didn't cover their use in a video release. Why they didn't then attempt to secure permission for the video release is anyone's guess, since it's theatrical release was such a hit, it was bound to be really successful on video (though VCRs weren't nearly as ubiquitous then as they are now). So I'll need to change the info that I just added. I just wish someone could find "the striaght dope" on the whole copyright problem. — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:39, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

I seem to recall that DEVO's version of "Working in a Coal Mine" was used over the end credits. I remember that because I worked on that film and I recall one of the the producers coming in and telling me about it, the implication being that it was an "in" joke about how hard everyone had worked. But perhaps it was taken out? I never actually saw the finished film. Editdroid 04:04, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so. I saw it on a movie theatre a few years ago, and I clearly remember that the song was included in the movie. 85.226.122.205 15:05, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

It was in the closing credits. As each animation sequence is credited the music changes to reflect the sequence, with "Working in a Coal Mine" replacing "Radar Rider".--RedKnight 02:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Why weren't "Through Being Cool" and "E5150" included on any release of the soundtrack? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.100.250.189 (talk) 09:36, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I am trying to locate the article that detailed the "copyright" issues that delayed the release of this movie. The gist of it was that the studio didn't really care to do the work to find who held the rights to the various songs and without the rights they couldn't release the movie on video or DVD. A fan, who happened to be an attorney, tracked down the holders of the rights to the songs, got them all to sign releases and then he took the releases to the studio and handed them over which eliminated the stumbling block.

Now if I could get him to do that for WKRP so that we could have it with the original music and lines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mercwyn (talk • contribs) 18:05, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Just picked up the LP of Heavy Metal: The Score and noted the typo of Taarna's name on the album cover. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotgardener (talk • contribs) 19:12, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Grimaldi

I believe (possibly the "Grimaldi" mentioned in the credits) can be removed. The closing credits clearly list two voice actors for the opening sequence, one character is named Grimaldi.--RedKnight 02:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Captain Sternn

Whoever wrote the sentence below clearly needs to clean it up. There are incomplete thoughts and an abundance of missing parentheses. Kwyjibear 04:06, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Fiste takes the stand, but his perjury is subverted when the Loc-Nar (in his possession and currently the size of a marble). It can be argued that the people on the station are giants since the Loc-Nar stays the same size all the way through except for this segment.) forces him to blurt out the truth about Sternn's evil deeds until he angrily denounces Sternn to the point of suggesting gruesome execution methods (Hanging's too good for him! Burning's too good for him! He should be torn into little-bitsy pieces and buried alive!).

This assertion isn't even true since in "So Beautiful, So Dangerous" the loc-nar once again appears to be the approximate size of a marble. Unless this person intends to argue that the humans in this segment are giants too. Bloody Sacha 10:25, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I've made the appropriate changes Bloody Sacha 10:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Heavy Metal (1981).jpg

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"Burning Chrome"?

Why do we need the paragraph in the lede about the attempt to make a film of Burning Chrome? It is in no way relevant to this article or this topic. It might be interesting as a brief note in the article about that book, but it is irrelevant here. ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 03:29, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Uhluht'c

It's Cthulu spelled backwards. That can't be a coincidence, but I'm wondering if it still counts as original research. Should we link it to the Cthulu article? Briham (talk) 15:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

This has been removed and then added again. It looks like original research to me. It seems obvious what the writer's intentions were, but in the absence of a reference, it should not be in the article. ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 16:49, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Fan Page Link

Should there be a link to the Heavy Metal Magazine Fan Page? I think there should be for these reasons: This link provides useful information with a movie synopsis, screenshots, release dates, trailer link, detailed DVD info, credits, a review, and additional information with history on how the movie came to be. A lot of this information is hard to find/unique to this link or expands on the information. -Lostboy- (talk) 01:44, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Just for everyone's information, a few days ago Lostboy contacted me on my talk page about the link. This was my response:

I took a look at the page, and it's a nice looking page with lots of information. However, it's a personal fan site, which violates Rule #11 of Links normally to be avoided. Also, since it's your site, adding it yourself is a conflict of interest. Calling it a spam link was probably incorrect, but I still maintain that it shouldn't appear in the article. If you object, take it up on the Heavy Metal film talk page where other editors can chime in. They may overrule me, and then you'll have your way. Peace!

He did as I suggested and posed his question here. The page nudges the issues I cite above, but doesn't fly in the face of them, nor is the site commercial in any fashion. Since no one objected, I'm not going to remove the link again. If someone has a problem with it, please speak here. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 18:15, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I have added the link again. The reasons are:

No advertising

Well produced

Provides much more detailed information on the movie and its relationship to the original stories

Some interesting original artwork from both the movie and related magazine

Happy to discuss of course. The7thdr (talk) 22:21, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Songs

Why do we need the individual songs listed by segment as well as in the soundtrack? If no one objects, I will remove the songs from the plot section. ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 14:06, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

As no one has objected in the past month, I am removing the songs. ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 16:39, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

There's something seriously wrong with you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.176.11 (talk) 03:55, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Pardon me for not checking the discussion page for this matter - as a matter of fact, I think their inclusion fits the guideline for encyclopedic material given that the film's soundtrack is at least as important as its cast. As the article is currently written, the songs should be included in the plot summary as long as that section is sub-divided into each short story/chapter - I'm going to revert for now, although if you find their inclusion particularly offensive for some reason I'd welcome some discussion on the matter. MalikCarr (talk) 08:08, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

My opinion is that, as long as there is a section for the soundtrack, we do not need to repeat the song titles in the plot. What do they add to an understanding of the story? ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 14:35, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

The movie is an anthology with distinct chapters. These chapters are shaped by the music and the art, as described in the commentary on the movie. The soundtrack does not include every song, as noted in the section, nor does the soundtrack identify which chapters of the film are associated with specific songs. Additionally, the credits for the movie specifically break the list of songs by chapter, as opposed to normally listed in a "song section" of the credits. So it fits that a breakout of each chapter (as this entry does) would describe each section separately, including the music. The cast is listed in each chapter as well, as opposed to simply a "cast" section. Pejorative.majeure (talk) 01:15, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the much more eloquent parsing of the argument I was going to make. If it wasn't for the large textural content in the Soundtrack section, I'd suggest that that portion should be removed in lieu of the individual listing per chapter/story as long as we're suggesting matters of redundancy should be addressed so aggressively. If pruning is to be done, the Soundtrack and Score sections should be merged - although, I feel the current content and layout is fine as it is given that it is perfectly verifiable and descriptive to the benefit of the article in question. MalikCarr (talk) 09:05, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

I thank the commenters above, and very much appreciate the listing of the songs with each segment. There are two problems I can see, however: Viewing the youtube.com clips that appear to be unmodified (careful-some have their own soundtracks added), I cannot find the Sammy Hagar version of Heavy Metal playing during the "nyborg" sequence. I do find the Hagar version playing during the next-to-last Taarna sequence. Can someone with a bona fide copy, or watching a bona fide copy verify this and make the corrections if appropriate? -Thx. 24.130.80.5 (talk) 06:10, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Sequel section

Why is there no mention of Heavy Metal 2000? 86.46.55.61 (talk) 23:47, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Odd sentence

"Heavy Metal may be the canonical example of a popular film or album that was unavailable to consumers for a long time for obscure reasons, despite popular acclaim or success." - Doesn't really make sense (canonical, etc.?). Cut it? 50.54.239.191 (talk) 01:15, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

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Tarna

Who did the voice for Tarna? 2601:197:C181:B70:1093:6CAF:9B4F:E6BF (talk) 23:52, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

South Park Parody

S12E03 of South Park entitled "Major Boobage" had a great parody of the film. It's a drug induced hallucination of Kenny. Does that warrant mentioning in this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimindc (talk • contribs) 05:04, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

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Seth MacFarlane's Heavy Metal (TV Series)

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