Talk:Helen O'Brien
Latest comment: 1 year ago by The History Wizard of Cambridge in topic No mention of WWII, Nazi occupation, and early life?
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Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 18:58, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
... that Helen O'Brien fled the communists in her native Romania and founded the most daring nightclub in London, where she worked as a spy for MI5 and MI6?Source: "...fervent anti-Communist who had fled her native Romania after the war...In its day it was the most daring show in the West End...was so useful that she had not one but a team of handlers from MI5 and MI6."- Reviewed: Vladimír Mandl and Waitomo Big Apple
Created by Edwardx (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 21:14, 8 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Helen O'Brien; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Article qualifies, but "the communists" in the hook could do with being clarified (communist government?) and the source says "the most daring show", which is slightly different from the most daring nightclub. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:14, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Two hooks requires two DYK QPQ reviews. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:15, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Edwardx: The 2nd QPQ is still needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:36, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- done. @Edwardx: please respond to rest of queries. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:38, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry everyone. Have been a bit busy as of late. Should get back to this later today. Edwardx (talk) 10:54, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Edwardx: Have you had a chance to work on this? Z1720 (talk) 18:25, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
@Edwardx: Has not responded to the ping above. Unless they return, or someone like @Whispyhistory: takes over the nomination, this is at risk of being closed as unsuccessful. Z1720 (talk) 19:11, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks @Z1720:... I'm sure Edward has good reason. I'll work on these in the interim. Whispyhistory (talk) 08:38, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Edwardx: Have you had a chance to work on this? Z1720 (talk) 18:25, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry everyone. Have been a bit busy as of late. Should get back to this later today. Edwardx (talk) 10:54, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- done. @Edwardx: please respond to rest of queries. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:38, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Romanian born Helen O'Brien escaped advancing Russians on the King's horse, opened the Eve, and worked as a spy for MI5 and MI6?
- ALT2 ... that a bishop ran off with a hostess from Helen O'Brien's nightclub Eve?
- ALT3 ... that Romanian born British spy Helen O'Brien hosted John Profumo's stag night at Eve? Whispyhistory (talk) 09:19, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
Full review needed now that new hooks have been proposed; the original review was unspecific and only mentions "article" when there are two nominated. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:35, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Approve ALT1 Both articles were nominated just barely within the time limit, so good there. Both of them are long enough, at approximately 3000 and 2000 characters respectively. Everything looks to be properly sourced, including in-line citations for the hook facts. I will say though that the Eve article could definitely be expanded when you have an entire book chapter about it. No copyvio issues noted from the detector and the QPQs have been done. I'm going with ALT1 as the more interesting hook, since while the others are a bit fun, that first one seems like it would attract the most attention and is most informative about the articles to boot. Looks good to go. SilverserenC 18:52, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
No mention of WWII, Nazi occupation, and early life?
editI'm not knowledgeable on this individual but I recently saw them appear in today's "did you know" section on the wiki home page.
It strikes me as odd how there is zero info on Helen O'Brien's life between her birth and the end of WWII. Twenty years of life and there is no information?
I can only imagine what a rabid anti-communist political agent from a wealthy aristocratic family would have been doing while living under Nazi occupation.
The History Wizard of Cambridge (talk) 06:40, 27 November 2023 (UTC)