Talk:Hell's Gate National Park/GA1

GA Review

This article needs significant work before becoming a GA. Here are some of the initial errors I noticed:

• Reference #7 is totally messed up.
  • How so? I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 19:19, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
• It lacks a complete reference. ~Meldshal42 19:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Huh? I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 19:29, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, i have gotten another reference. feel free to use it as it is already there. It seem svery informative. ~Meldshal42 00:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Please use this reference . ~Meldshal42 19:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I am guessing that in my ref when it says, Altitude-5000 to 7000 feet, it means above sea level? ~Meldshal42 19:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

• The article lacks images. ~Meldshal42 20:43, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
  • It has a map. Images would be a plus, but they aren't required for GA. I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 19:19, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
    • Image added. I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 00:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Additional comments

I just saw that this article was promoted to Good Article status and I must say that I'm honestly surprised. How can it be considered broad enough in its coverage to fulfill the GA criteria? Who proposed/established the park? Why? Who maintains it? Kenya Wildlife Service? What is the area's climate? Most popular tourist season? How does it take part in wildlife conservation? More information is needed on the early history of the area; the "History" section jumps from a mention of "early humans" (?) to 1981. In comparison to Nairobi National Park, I think the detail is sorely lacking. Some research may answer some of these questions and make the article far more broad in its scope. I also see issues with the prose:

• "the park" is repetitively used and needs variation
• Refs go after punctuation and a space must follow
• Through the park, one can see Hells Gate Gorge lined with red cliffs containing two volcanic plugs - First, "one can see" is unprofessional and sloppy; "the Hells Gate Gorge is visible with ref cliffs..."? Also, nix the dash (-) and use an unspaced em dash per WP:DASH
• Numbers 0-9 are to be written out per WP:NUMBERS
• "National Parks" -> national parks

I would have held off on promoting the article. When compared to the other Good Articles from the same category, it seems small, rushed, and unfinished. I do not wish to submit this to GAR so soon after its promotion, but as it stands now I do not think it fulfills the criteria. There's more work that needs doing. María (habla conmigo) 20:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)