Talk:Hermann von Eichhorn

Link to organized crime

@Asilvering and Usernamekiran: I puzzled over this too and concluded the reason for this subject's association with organized crime is because the article states: "He was assassinated in Kiev on 30 July 1918 by Boris Mikhailovich Donskoy of Left Socialist Revolutionaries." The Organized crime banner was added by User:Usernamekiran, not me. All I did was assess an outstanding article. Applying the banner indicates the article is of interest to the relevant WikiProject, not that the subject was a professional criminal. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 03:48, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Yes, no issue with your rating! I realized after I reverted your edit that you only added the rating, not the project. That's why I reverted that revert. And I'm aware of what a wikiproject banner is for. But the organized crime wikiproject is presumably interested in articles related to... organized crime. Assassins aren't necessarily organized criminals, and the Left Socialist Revolutionaries aren't a crime ring. I suppose one could say that they were organized, and did crimes, but that's not a typical definition of "organized crime". The word "crime" appears only once in the article, and it's not in wp Organized Crime, either. -- asilvering (talk) 05:19, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

@Asilvering: The definition of organized crime is both vague and variable. The scope of WikiProject Organized crime is consequently quite broad. I would point out that an assassination is technically the crime of murder, so if the Left Socialist Revolutionaries assisted their assassin then that makes the crime an organized one and the Left Socialist Revolutionaries a criminal organization. In some jurisdictions that is enough to be called "organized crime", in the broadest sense of the term. Now, if the Left Socialist Revolutionaries were a terrorist group, then the assassination could be considered a terrorist act, which would be excluded from the current scope of that project. Illogical, I know, but this article is in that grey area on the project boundaries and it is a marginal call. However, I am still happy if you think this article falls outside the scope of "organized crime", because I have still found another article about a victim of crime. Basically, I have assumed all un-assessed organized crime article are also crime related articles, so I have been rating them for both projects. Thank you for your interest and concern. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 06:16, 25 January 2022 (UTC)