Talk:Holby City

Changing cast list style

I noticed that the supporting Holby City cast have photos and a little paragraph about the character. I think this would be a good move to do with the current cast, former cast and original cast. The article may get long though, so I'd suggest creating three separate articles for each sector of cast. Any opinions please? 79.66.151.48 08:55, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree it would be useful to attempt for former and original cast, although in the case of current cast where all currently have their own individual articles, think those are much better left as such. Frickative 16:47, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Crossovers With Casualty

Should the Casualty@Holby City section of the page be supplemented to cover other cross-over plot lines? e.g.

• relationship between Tony (Casualty) and Ben (midwife, Holby City).
• Norwalk virus plot line - some wards were closed in Holby City, and the backlog of patients was evident in Casualty.
• Mike Barrett's move from Casualty to Holby City.

Removed PhD

Someone had added 'PhD' to Lola Griffin (current cast) and Victoria Merrick, Kirstie Collins & Muriel McKendrick (Original Cast). There has been no evidence from any of the episodes that these characters had a PhD, they had the title 'Dr' through their medical qualification (likely to be either 'MB ChB' or 'MBBS'), they would only have had 'PhD' after their name if they had done postgraduate research - and there is no evidence of this!!! Jxb311 11:07, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, that was me - had a blonde moment and decided to put PhD instead of Dr... DBD 16:42, 16 March 2006 (GMT)

Paul Bradley

The cast section says Elliot Hope is played by Paul Bradley. Could someone confirm whether or not this is the same Paul Bradley whose article is linked? It says he is a film producer, not an actor. Tim from Leeds 16:14, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

It was the wrong person. The correct article is at Paul Bradley (actor), I've corrected this on the article. _{talk to} JD ^{wants e-mail} 20:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Tricia & Connie (recent edit)

Hi all, I just edited the Current Cast section, removing "prev. Nurse" from Tricia, because each character's list of roles includes only those seen within the programme itself. And also, Connie was referred to as "Head of Cardiothoracic's" - ignoring the gross grammatical error, do we have proof of this? As far as I recall, we have none -- DBD 13:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

See also section

Ignoring the erroneous labelling of Casualty as a Holby City spin off - do we really need this section here? Both Casualty and HolbyBlue, as well as the minor characters page are all clearly linked to in the Holby template at the bottom, as well as in the body of the page itself. And I would firmly question the necessity of linking to a number of unrelated television shows purely on the basis that they share the same genre as Holby City. Frickative 00:27, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I concur DBD 19:31, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Holby City (logo).PNG

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Filmizing

Anyone noticed that this week's (and last week's) episodes have been "filmized"? Smoothy 19:06, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes - looks good!

Yes, it seems that they have now switched to recording the programme on film, or at least have given it a 'filmic' look in post production, rather than the traditional look you get when recording to tape. This gives it more of an American feel which in my view doesn't suit this kind of show in the UK. Nevertheless, does this progession mean that the article's mention of a 'single camera set-up' is incorrect now? Can any film-makers comment here and/or change the article if so, as it doesn't look the show is made in the same way as it was up until mid-2007. User:Jaydash 20:44, 9 October 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.62.16 (talk)

Filmizing is possible on single and multi camera productions. Soaps like All My Children and Family Affairs have done it and they were definitely multi camera. Format (talk) 07:20, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 10:43, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Filming Location

Changed the location of where Holby City is filmed as it previously stated in the article: "...Holby City is filmed in London at the BBC's Elstree Studios." It's a contradiction to the next sentence in the article that says it's filmed in Hertfordshire, and the article relating to Elstree Studio says it's in Hertfordshire (which is just outside of London). :) Londonsista (talk) 22:27, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Good catch. Even basic geography's never been my forte - I've been under the mistaken impression Elstree is in London for two or three years now! Frickative (talk) 00:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Characters

Hi

Shouldn't somebody replace the character pages with a list of characters on this page? Casualty and HolbyBlue don't have individual character pages, so I don't see why this should. George.millman (talk) 22:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Holby Blue and Casualty used to have individual character pages, they just broke most all the rules of WP:FICT. The Holby City character pages for the most part are much better. Certainly a lot of them are still works in progress, but at least three of them now are at WP:GA standard. Frickative (talk) 22:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Nurse Team Leaders

I see someone has changed the positions of characters Chrissie Williams, Faye Byrne and Daisha Anderson from "Ward Sister" to "Nurse Team Leader" - there has been nothing to announce this change either in the show or in any official material. BBC Holby City website still describes all three as Ward Sisters. I think this should be changed back. Skarloey (talk) 18:42, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Current characters

I'd like to explain my changes to the Characters section, in an attempt to stave off any reverting which may ensue simply because it has been the status quo for so long. I've taken the list of current characters and reworded it as prose, whilst also discussing the characters from the first series alongside it. I think that presenting the information in list format is problematic, as the manual of style states that prose is generally preferred to lists in articles, and almost every featured article on a TV series uses prose rather than lists. I considered removing the information altogether, as my interpretation of the various relevant policies is that, as an encyclopaedia, Wikipedia should cover the show as a whole, without giving undue weight to the current series. In discussing only the current characters, it gives the section a recentist slant, focusing in an in-universe fashion on only current events, which are prone to change frequently, and are no more notable than any of the preceding eleven series. I decided that might be too drastic, and settled for including the first series information for balance.

I've left the infobox untouched for the time being, as I appreciate that it would be impractical to attempt to list all 80 or so main cast members from the past 11 years, but perhaps that would be best replaced with a link to the characters article, or even a List of Holby City cast members article, which might, if properly sourced, be an appropriate way to present character/cast information in a table format, on a series by series basis. I'm thinking of something similar to the featured list List of Harry Potter cast members. Would anyone be interested in working on such an article? Frickative 21:18, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Would definitely be interested in working on a character/cast list article... I'm a sucker for lists! I'm willing to do a lot of the base work on the tables and lists themselves, it's just all the referencing that I find awkward and tedious. Skarloey (talk) 22:30, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh that's excellent, I'm semi-incompetent when it comes to actually coding tables, but I quite like digging up references. Most of the main characters have got their start and end dates on the official website anyway, so it shouldn't be too hard. If you want to work on a draft in your userspace or something, let me know and I'll see what I can do to help out with references :) Frickative 23:16, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Holby City/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk) 18:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Disambiguations: one found and fixed.[1] Jezhotwells (talk) 18:22, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Linkrot: none found. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:23, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Checking against GA criteria

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   Well written. complies with relevant elements of the Manual of Style

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   References check out, no OR

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   Broad and focussed

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   NPOV

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   tagged, licensed and captioned

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   I found no issues with this article. It is a little long, but that is not a GA criterion. If you decide to take this to WP:FAC the length may become an issue. Passing as a good article. Congratulations. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:04, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your review! I'll definitely keep the length issue in mind before a potential FAC nom. I think this is the article that I've been working on the longest in all my time on Wikipedia - since about 2007 now - and it has grown considerably in that time. I'll try and pinpoint some areas that could be condensed while retaining overall broadness of coverage. Thanks again! Frickative 20:47, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Where is this set?

The introduction indicates this is set in the fictional city of Holby, but the last sentence of the Critical response section states that it is set in Bristol. I'm confused ... (Waterloosunset27 (talk) 13:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC))

It's set in Holby, which effectively replaces Bristol on the map. Casualty, the sister show, is currently filmed in Bristol (though is moving to a new set in Cardiff). Skarloey (talk) 14:20, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Current series

This should be updated as it is now on the 14th series - but when i try to do that I get an error page. -- Beardo (talk) 22:36, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

First writer to become showrunner

Is there a source for that fact ? -- Beardo (talk) 22:37, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

If a possible contradiction would help, Russell T. Davies was both (head) writer for and "showrunner" (as Executive Producer) of Doctor Who from 2005-2010, although technically he didn't become showrunner after being a writer for the show, as Tony McHale did on Holby.

Moved from Casualty talk

Where is the real Holby City? Can you find the real-life Holby City please for next year. Thanks. RealMI6Fan (talk). —Preceding undated comment added 06:55, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

It was filmed in Bristol, and it showed features of Bristol including the Clifton Suspension Bridge. It is now filmed elsewhere. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:47, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Filmed in Cardiff. Please see below — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:07, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

I thought Casualty was filmed in Bristol but now Wales and Holby next door to EastEnders?Rain the 1 23:49, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Holby is filmed next door to EastEnders at the BBC's Elstree studios. There's an interview with Don Gilet in this week's Inside Soap and he mentions that he recently caught up with Diane Parish at the studios. - JuneGloom Talk 00:50, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you June for putting me straight!
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:31, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Holby City/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

==Assessment, August 13 2007== This article could have been 'B' class, had it not been for the lack of decent citations. TheIslander 15:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Last edited at 15:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 18:09, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 June 2021

Hi, I wanted to make an edit request by putting last aired date 'March 2022' Umair TCFA (talk) 13:15, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done the last aired date must remain as "present" until the last episode has aired. – DarkGlow • 14:25, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Holby city no longer exists it has entered the history book

I am not a "was warrior" however if you look at X Factor it has X Factor was. So my feedback is that when a programme ceases to air it goes in the history book and becomes past. So it does warrant "was" it no longer exists. Same as X Factor in the UK no longer exists. Same as neighbours will cease production soon so it will no longer exist. Percy2345 (talk) 23:16, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

@Percy2345: No, I was correct per MOS:TVNOW. The phrasing on X Factor was incorrect too, so I've changed it. Let me know if you know of any other pages that incorrectly say "was". – DarkGlow • 23:25, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

I personally disagree ifca programme ceases production then it no longer exists. It enters into the history book. Why is it different with a person though like Lovely Tom Parker. He passed away and suddenly its was. He may have passed away but his spirit lives on. If programmes stop production then thats it. Regardless of the rules. Its silly. One rule for this a different rule for that. Come on please why make it so difficult. Percy2345 (talk) 02:44, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

But the show does still exist. I can literally watch episodes on the BBC iPlayer now or repeats on the Drama channel, which is why the article is written in present tense. It is a television show that was broadcast from 1999 until 2022. Once a person dies, they stop existing. Per MOS:BLPTENSE, biographies of deceased persons should use past tense. - JuneGloom07 Talk 18:05, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

No one is making it difficult because the fact is that Holby City still exists. Every single tape, reel, recording and online video would need to be destroyed for it to cease to exist. It exists because I can watch it right now. If it did not exist I could not not watch it again.Rain the 1 13:13, 1 April 2022 (UTC)