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Neutrality

This article needs to be rewritten in a neutral point of view. The language of the article seems as if it was written by a salesman trying to promote the technology. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.104.134.129 (talk) 22:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Globalize/USA

I think most of the content is not representative of the technologies around the world... This article does not deal with European and Asiatic standards, technologies and brands. It seems to be a promotion of few american companies technical and commercial choices. Please read also discussion about merging with Domotics in this talk page. --Kiaitutoi (talk) 12:41, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, if you know enough about the subject to know it doesn't include practices in other parts of the world, you know enough to add the missing bits! WP:BOLD. --Wtshymanski (talk) 14:15, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

I already started and could continue only if I am not to fight for any information I add... WP:BOLD as you said ! --Kiaitutoi (talk) 15:34, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Photo Example

i'm thinking that photo is a bad example of home automation. And dangerous too. How about we find a more appropriate photo.

I agree - I have some photos of an automated home. Where/how can I upload them.

Also, I think it's important to create a section called "History of home automation". It's been around a while and would be useful and interesting. I can supply some history.

that would be really useful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.59.10.110 (talk) 14:52, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Domotics merger

This article and Domotics have enough overlap that they should be discussed in one article, even if there is a slight difference between the two --Dtcdthingy 23:40, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree that Home Automation, Room automation and Domotics should be merged. My understanding of the term domotics is that it's a combination of domicile and robotics. A few people from Europe have used the term in their discussions on home automation. I feel that the term Domotics better covers what Home Automation should cover. Home Automation doesn't say entertainment systems, security or 'managing home resources and information'. It just says automating your appliances in your home. On the recomendation of merging with Intelligent building I am uncertain, on Building automation I think that's more a reference to commercial building automation. Building automation and home automation seldom use the same products though the general principles are the same. You most likely won't find entertainment systems in commercial buildings. :-) Smart Environments sounds like it is a subject that is shared with both Home Automation and Building automation. --linuxha 21:20, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I also agree on merging Home automation and Domotics, as they refer to nearly the same thing. Domotics is a more popular term im Europe. Building automation might well be kept separate, since there is a difference in scale, and in the technologies used (e.g. BACnet vs. X10). Building and home automation should have links to one another. I think that smart environments should not be merged with these topics. It could, instead, be merged into pervasive/ubiquitous computing. Smart environments are more of an application term, whereas home automation is more technical. --Anonymous Reviewer 08:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Agree too. Goldenglove 12:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

As I noted on the Domotics article's discussion page, this should be merged into one article under the Home automation heading. Takeitupalevel 03:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I also agree with the merger. they are simmilar enough. Stwalkerster 21:21, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I suggest use http://robots.wikia.com/wiki/Home_automation to merge them. --Altermike 09:33, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Room automation should be merged into Home automation. The resulting article should be filed under Home automation. Kinema 06:19, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Note that Room automation has already been merged and redirected to Building automation. Full content of this discussion now applied. Haruth (talk) 20:59, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

The merge was reversed without explanation 4 days later by Kiaitutoi (talk · contribs) --Kvng (talk) 16:56, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Domotics is a broader term than Home Automation. There is no automation in many electronic solutions for home... First of them is the Home network, but many other parts of the home use electronics and are not "Automation" as Multimedia, AV systems, Smart appliances, Energy metering, etc... Home automation will be more and more considered as the motorized part of the domotic solutions, even if the control is done via a software. Are the iPad, a fridge connected to Internet for recipes or a solar energy supply "Home Automation" solutions ? I don't think so. I know "Domotic" is a new term in the USA, but you can check the references in the article... In fact, I wanted to modify and precise many things in the Wikipedia articles about domotics, home automation, smart appliances that are really too old fashioned, but I hadn't time enough until now... --Kiaitutoi (talk) 13:01, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

I do not follow the above. Each article is supposed to be a "topic" even if different terms were used by different groups or different times in history. I did look at http://akshatgait.com/domotics-as-the-advance-in-home-appliances-use.html which is the supposed source for saying they are different, but the source contradicts the claim instead of supporting it. It has "Home Automation" in big letters above the discussion of domotics. It is just a blog anyway. There already is an article on Home network so that seems not relevant. We normally do not have one article on a term used in blogs and another on a term used in other literature for the same topic. W Nowicki (talk) 18:43, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

None of it is going to matter until we can buy a Rosie that sorts socks, clears the table, and changes the cat box. There's a you-tube video of a robot folding 4 towels...in an hour! --Wtshymanski (talk) 19:01, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

There don't appear to be any reliable sources that support the claimed distinction of Domotics. Even if there were, I'm not convinced the distinction is great enough or notable enough to merit a separate Domotics article. --Kvng (talk) 20:01, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

I think you should improve reliable sources in the "Home automation" article as I did in "Domotics" article. There are more than blog references, you should check all of them... Local Area Network at home has never been part of "Home automation"... Anyway, most of the human languages have a distinction including "domotic" in the term, and English has too. Domotics is used by scientists, research and development, and universities for years. Only US professionals don't use it in their marketing communications, for the moment... So Wikipedia should be a commercial and american centric source ? Anyway, I used to be a Dmoz editor for years, I work in home technologies for 10 years but I am a newbie in Wikipedia edition. I heard Wikipedia needed more contributors, juts wanted to help... It seems to me that there are too many articles to improve and write in home technologies field... Wikipedia is nearly steampunk about it. Believe me. --Kiaitutoi (talk) 15:33, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

 Done Domotics merged and now redirects here. Haruth (talk) 20:59, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

 Done The merge was reversed without explanation by Wtshymanski (talk · contribs). I still wait for reliable sources in the "Home automation" article, which is mainly used in the USA and does not cover all the domotic's fields...

According to the Domotics article (but not directly supported by references): "Domotics does not simply involve controlling a light or appliance, but includes completely automated systems that control entertainment, heating, broadband, lighting and security from one of many types of digital computer control devices, panels and mobile handset". This describes home automation, so the two topics should be merged. Pburka (talk) 13:43, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Say what? I merged the stub at Domotics with Home automation because these are synonymous terms. The edit comment was "solve two tags with one edit" - "Domotics" had no lead section and had been tagged for merge for months. I've yet to find anyone talking about "domotics" who's identified any significant content that is not already described by "home automation" - if the coiners of the term can't explain the difference, maybe there is no difference? --Wtshymanski (talk) 14:36, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

If it wasn't clear, I was supporting the merge. Pburka (talk) 14:58, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

External Links

This section has been trimmed from commercial companies in the field. I also removed the magazine link which contained mainly ads. Please review the external links policy before reverting these changes. Links to corporate entities should only be used where they are the subject of the article. Wikipedia is, after all, not an advertisment. --Usrnme h8er 20:47, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I would agree with merging. Also, I have never seen the "Dometic" term used outside of this article. --MountainLogic 17:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree.

I suggest include only standards and free software in external links. --Altermike 09:37, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I would like to see CocoonTech.com added as a link. It contains many articles which are extremely popular such as http://www.cocoontech.com/portal/lists/home-automation-software (probably one of the best and most up to date home automation software lists out there), http://www.cocoontech.com/portal/articles/news/42-events/570-cedia-expo-2011-home-automation-inc (example of home automation news coverage) and http://www.cocoontech.com/portal/articles/guides/home-automation/144-zigbee-101 . I have tried to add it twice, but twice it got removed. The site is vendor/manufacturer neutral, doesn't sell anything, and is regarded as one of the better home automation portals by many people. I can't see a good reason why this shouldn't be added, so hopefully others can chime in here, and explain why people should be deprived from this information ;) 0xkiwi (talk) 15:02, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

No, we need more scholarly articles about home automation, and fewer sales catalogs selling hardware. --Wtshymanski (talk) 04:43, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Ok, you obviously didn't check out the links I gave you (or the site in general), as that's exactly what you are looking for (e.g., the ZigBee article was written by a neutral industry expert, many tutorials and guides, and covers news in the home automation industry). The site doesn't sell anything. Think of the site as Engadget, but focused home automation. HiddenWires on the other hand, is exactly what you don't want, but is allowed in the EL section. Very confusing. 0xkiwi (talk) 13:03, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Alright. I think it would probably be fine to add it. You're arguments seem reasonable enough. I won't remove it if you add it again, but I won't promise that someone else won't. Falcon8765 ^(TALK) 20:02, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I really do understand and appreciate the effort it takes to keep these articles clean, so thanks for the hard work! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 0xkiwi (talk • contribs) 00:22, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

I removed it again. Blog / community sites such as that one fall under links to be avoided. - MrOllie (talk) 16:52, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Delisting of companies

I was curious as to what the rules are that govern the listing of companies here. I had previously listed the company I used for my house automation only to find it gone at a later date. I had then assumed this meant you were not allowed to list a company (as it could be seen as advertising) yet I found other companies remained in the list.... so it confused me. From the stand point of a source of knowledge I would have assumed it would be beneficial to list the companies that provide this kind of service as anyone wanting to find out more information about what it is could then use the links to reach companies that actually do it.... in this sense, how is it any different to companies being listed on wikipedia in the first place? There are already many entries for companies... some of which are obscure. Enigmatical 22:31, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Please see my above posting, I havn't had time to review all the extrnal links currenty in the article in detail, please feel free to do this and if you feel that they are purely commercial entities - feel free to remove them. Generally, commercial entities should only be linked to from their own wiki articles, such as IBM.com from IBM rather than linking IBM.com from computer, personal computer, company (law) etc... If the companies are considered notable enough, they will have their own wiki pages, subject to wikipedia:notability requirements, which in turn can be linked to from a related page (for example apple computers being linked from personal computer). --Usrnme h8er 07:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

History

This article really needs a history section. I've always been intrigued by the speculative way in which home automation was being marketed in the 1980s... little of it came to fruition. I came to read about this aspect and found nothing. -Rolypolyman 20:34, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

The reference to German explosive motor boats as the first use of remote control is incorrect, remote controlled Brennan torpedoes were widely used as coast defence weapons in the Victorian era. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.214.157 (talk) 15:31, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Is the Honeywell 316 Kitchen Computer of 1969 really relevant to the history of home automation? I don't think that a kitchen computer qualifies as a home automation system. 141.89.216.132 (talk) 07:05, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

The author seems to be taking creative liberties with history. Tesla was not even born yet in 1785. How could he have envisioned remote control? Dudeyemsi (talk) 14:48, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-Protect

I have added semi-protect status to this page because about half of the last 50 edits have been either adding or removing commercial links. Time to changes things. Eptin 21:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

External link candidate #1

I believe that the it was very good to clear out most of the external links, but perhaps this one should be reinstated: Home Automation FAQ. What do you guys think? --Eptin 03:43, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. To be honest, I have not seen the previous external links, but I would like to see quality external links that help me in my personal projects. That means, not just links to definition pages. Practical links, to companies that provide useful hardware and software. You ask me what I think? I think you are doing a disservice to users like myself. --ML6868 09:30, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, you should be to find what you are looking for by looking in DMOZ. RJASE1 ^Talk 02:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

At first glance it looked useful, as it might have provided more detail than the wikipedia article would have provided. I looked farther into just now, and I found that most of the topic links point to empty folders, which is completely useless. The whole discussion is moot now, since the current link is dead (I had to look it up on the Internet Archive to find out what it looked like). --Eptin 05:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I need links where they belong: the external links section. They have proved to be very useful in countless articles. Unfortunately some users are too concerned censoring them depriving users like myself with valuable resources. Wake up and smell the coffe.

External link candidate #2

Hello. I added a link to this site to X10 since it is definitely covers X10 automation in great detail, but I'm wondering it it is general enough to be included in the external links for the Home Automation category. The site definitely centers around the X10 standard, but some of the stuff on the site (the Cameras, VR Gadgetry, Weather/Environment sensing, etc.) applies beyond the standard, and the site seems informational/has a well defined purpose, privacy statement, etc. Thoughts on inclusion? Tomcat7194 21:04, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

It looks as though it would pass. It's not advertisement, it's a guide to how X10 and various other home automation systems are used throughout the house, so yeah, it looks like it should be included. --Eptin 22:13, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

It's been several weeks since my original post here, so I went ahead and added the link to the Home Automation page. I think the description of the site is accurate, but if anyone would like to tweak the wording or discusss this further, go right ahead. Tomcat7194 15:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Home Automation Software?

PCs are a growing market when it comes to Home Automation. Should there be some mention of software solutions? Like VR, Text to Speech, Email, etc. Perhaps mention a few existing software solutions on this page as well.

I don't think that any of the technologies you listed, like VR, Text to Speech, Email, count as home automation. There may be some software that might be mentioned in relation to the home automation hardware. Perhaps "Home server" technologies could be mentioned, as they have potential for soon hooking into home automation hardware. --Eptin 15:16, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Could new cloud based system be mentioned as mentioned here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.101.112.81 (talk) 02:34, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

eCourse on Integrated Home Systems

New link: http://www.leonardo-energy.org/drupal/node/3048 eCourse on Integrated Home Systems —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.118.58.90 (talk) 07:28, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Please would you like to cooperate with us?

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussione:Domotica#La_Domotica_.C3.A8_principalmente_Automazione —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.90.134.61 (talk) 16:09, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

External Link Candidate for Consideration Please

Does this external link to a forum on home automation that might be helpful to people with questions TechMall pass? If so could I please add it to the home automation/domotics page. Mpleasant (talk) 01:03, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Open-source home automation

There are also open-source home automation projects. see http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2008/07/open-domotics.html and http://www.domoticspoint.com/archive/2006/01/06/home-automation-expensive-try-open-source/

Also is Ethernet the best option for open-source home automation (cheapest?, possibility of making own devices, ...) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.246.183.119 (talk) 13:30, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

include in article thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.246.183.119 (talk) 13:07, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

UPDATE

following open-source projects are also worth mentioning the home automation server Digibutler and CARACA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.246.172.166 (talk) 09:28, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

References

Use of single central computer or PLC

perhaps a single central computer could be used to control all home systems. This could be possible trough the use of embedded systems as Lantronix Xport or Digi ME; see industrial automation. Connecting all household appliances to the central pc, managing the electricity control. Research and include in article

programmable logic controllers could possibly also take over this work ? Not completely sure about this as control of PLC's could be limited ? Also not sure whether the PLC OS would be powerful enough to imbed all functions and paramaters (beside control). Would be easier dough as no complete PC would be required —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.176.11.163 (talk) 09:05, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Put more info into table?

I notice Ethernet is broken down into speeds over media type, while the rest of the technologies are lumped together, even though the maximum practical speeds should be different for each media. It might make comparisons/understanding the various protocols/technologies easier - as well, I'm thinking the initial introduction of each technology could be an additional column, as updates come out it would be a new row next to the previous version(s), thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.6.146.93 (talk) 04:08, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

"Ethernet" is not a medium. (In the table under xPL protocol) "Medium" is 'the thing' that carries the signal. In this case CAT5/CAT6/RF etc. On the other hand, the whole column is irrelevant. There is no reason why any of the protocols can not be carried as RF or via a suitable wireing. As is the case with Ethernet: CAT-x or RF(WiFi)...

Intelligent home automation

There is still no section about "intelligent" home automation systems, ie systems that "predict" what the user might like to do, and proposes methods herefore. This include the Fast Track Team's system aswell as Microsoft's one; not sure how microsofts system is called (Grace?) see http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1129&dat=20050305&id=OqkkAAAAIBAJ&sjid=B3IDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5661,1574653 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.66.58.101 (talk) 12:58, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Needs real-world perspective

In typical Wikipedia fashion, we start exhaustively enumerating hairs on one side of one leaf and ignore the forest. Never mind the wall of buzzwords - let's discuss why a "home automation" system today is about as exotic as a "home computer" would have been in 1968 or a "personal automobile" in 1890. We've been seeing the automated home of the future in the Sunday supplements for 30 years or more, and they still are negligable in their effects. Googling old magazines on this topic is fascinating - a Popular Science article [1] shows that home automation was dead in the water in 1993, and I don't see it making much progress since then. Lots of promises, lots of hype, but you're still spending thousands of dollars on a system that won't pick up the dirty socks or clear the dining table. Let's get some balanced perspective on home automation and not worry so much about all the myriad inompatible protocols and "standards". Let's get some market penetration statistics and history. --Wtshymanski (talk) 16:57, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Better short and accurate than the trainspotter's guide to doomed protocols of the last 30 years. I am drastically shortening this article. --Wtshymanski (talk) 18:17, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

What ever happened to the National Association of Home Builders "Smart House" project, where everything was to run on low voltage DC? The tracks are still all over the electrical code in the US and Canada, but 25 years later there's no remnants left. --Wtshymanski (talk) 19:40, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Need to find something contrasting the George Jetson vision of adjusting your drapes remotely from Bali to the present day reality of needing 3 remote controls to watch TV. --Wtshymanski (talk) 20:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Look at: [2] for some perspective. --Wtshymanski (talk) 14:08, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

For starters the whole focus of the article seems to be very strange. Just because networking and centralized control happen to be one area of home automation work at the moment doesn't mean the whole article should be about that. Or, to put it another way, where is the coverage of home automation efforts that we now consider pase? (e.g. thermostatic control, timers, liquid/gaseous fuels, electrification, washing machines, etc.) Not as individual technologies, but as developments in automating and changing house work. Is there another article that deals with these technologies - the transition from manual everything to individual automated appliances that can cook your dinner, launder your socks or make a loaf of bread? Just because they aren't computerized or networked does not mean they aren't automation.

If there are other articles dealing with the history of home automation, which cover this - should be linked. If not, where should such coverage be? Here? (This seems like a reasonable place.) Some other article (please specify). Zodon (talk) 19:46, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Merge or Differentiate Digital home

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

Decision was to merge Digital home into Home automation Zodon (talk) 06:38, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

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Digital home seems to largely overlap much of the current content here. Should it be merged into this article? Should the networking nitty-gritty from here be moved to digital home (leaving this article clearer for more overall considerations, such as adding some history). If to remain separate articles, what should go where? Zodon (talk) 19:53, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Neutral Wire

The neutral wire claims in the comparison table need references. If anyone can provide them, please do so. --Ross Fraser (talk) 02:16, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

What is a netural? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.55.61.108 (talk • contribs)

It's the 'return wire' of the circuit. The 'hot wire' has the electrical potential, and the neutral wire completes the circuit and eventually goes to ground. See Electrical wiring in North America. All homes will have neutral wires, but in older homes they may not run through the switch boxes. - MrOllie (talk) 17:08, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Zigbee's neutral wire column says "No - it's wireless". This is very misleading. It's hard to find published info from companies that make Zigbee gear (without having having a dealer login, anyway), but it seems like basically all HA switches, a neutral is necessary in order to run the electronics. Some manufacturers have "cheater" switches that use the ground instead of neutral, but this is not the usual thing to do. Even if all Zigbee switches used the ground as a neutral, "wireless" being cited as the reason to not have neutral is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.221.72.9 (talk) 21:23, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

repeated information

domotics history is duplicated in the history section and domestic robotics section. It is also interesting that is the word "domotics" is described as a portmanteau in the history section and a composite word in the domestic robotics section (calling it a composite word is incorrect)

80.5.128.19 (talk) 22:44, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

It's 2015 now

The smart home has substantially changed. I think that this article needs to be rewritten to represent the large number of changes that have happened in the last 5 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daylenca (talk • contribs) 01:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Refocus of this article

The article has been flagged with banners for "lack of refs", "lack of worldview", and "outdated", some these are six years old. I propose an overhaul to the article where the subject of the article is "the residential extension of building automation, including lighting, HVAC appliances, and security. There are two basic concepts: control, and automation. Modern systems generally consist of switches and sensors connected to a central hub with a UI through a smartphone app or the web. --Cornellier (talk) 00:15, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Your idea seems good. There can however be several ways to setup a home automation system. There can in fact be several that act separately without coordination. So the heating system don't necessarily need to coordinate with entertainment system etc. They can however interact via a communication system where they all can interact, provided the protocols can make a meaningful exchange. At the furthest end of such system are the sensors or actuators. This also imply that several media types RS485, Ethernet, WiFi, BT, KNX, on/off RF etc can co-exist. At the next level there needs to be something such that a device on RS485 can send data to a device that communicates via WiFi. To coordinate there can be one, or several processing units that can handle more than one media or protocol. There can also be different demands where a temperature sensor might need very little capacity and a video camera need a lot. I just wanted to write this to make it obvious that a all cables end in one central hub isn't necessarily so. It's also very vulnerable. From these processing units one can arrange contact with a mobile phone etc.

One area that perhaps isn't analyzed very well is the ability to use devices from different manufacturers with different protocols and make them make meaningful communication.

There can be several ways to arrange the UI and different operating systems to run them on. Here user interaction, security, privacy, vendor lock-in, price etc. All affect the design, or become a consequence when not thought of. History should be mentioned albeit in a very summarized form with the most important advances mentioned.

The simplistic view of a several wireless (clueless) devices attached to a central hub that the vendor remotely controls and where the UI is on a mobile phone that lack any security should perhaps be avoided. Bytesock (talk) 01:11, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Just a note, it may be a good idea to write the year when a invention were introduced in order to relate it to other technology and societal development. I have done so for the washing machine and water heater. Bytesock (talk) 02:45, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Why is the Insteon protocol not included?

It's one of the oldest and more established protocols and has a very large list of compatible devices Takoateli (talk) 14:32, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Review of the article - Class assignment 14th Oct '16

There is lot of scope of improvement in this article, listed below are my views -

1. The article should be more organized in terms of content. There is a fair chance that links like “Home automation for the elderly and disabled” mentioned in ‘See also’ can be included in this article.

2. There is no proper procedural explanation of how home automation systems work, consider organizing content or try explaining it in layman’s language.

3. All the examples mentioned in the article only concentrate on USA based home automation systems. There is a scope that other regions might also have home automation systems according to their standards.

4. In-line citation can be improved for most of the content by considering conference journals or peer reviewed articles.

5. Consider adding trending/latest information on home automation systems considering most recent conference journals or peer reviewed articles.

6. We can also consider adding content on the history of home automation on how it was started or what led to start such a study. Overall the article can be improved in terms of content, reference and organization of the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramya Priya (talk • contribs) 17:19, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

REVIEW ON THE ARTICLE

Home automation is the great concept which made human life more easy. It is the next level of the technology. Change is the constant scenario we have to catch up with, since the technology is growing dramatically from day to day which leads to the arise of the new home automation concepts. After I reviewed the article, I came up with few ideas that would help improve the article.

1. There is a great scope of improvement for this article. Almost every section seems like they are incomplete. For example if we look at the implementations section in the article, it is clear that it is incomplete, as it talks about WiFi technology about one line!

2. Like I said the technology is been growing dramatically but the article still talks about the technology that majority of the people does not even know. There are outdated technologies that is taking more space in the article. They can be listed in the history if necessary but having a section to discuss them is a waste.

3. Pictures speak a lot in Wikipedia articles. A good picture with a good description is required for the easy and good understanding of the article but this article does not show the relevant pictures of what it is talking about.

4. Try to update the information as much as possible in all the sections. Insert Method section where you can talk all about the improvements in the technology.

5. Last but not the least, references is one of the pillar in the Wikipedia articles. The references in this article are not good enough. This article not only lacking of good articles but also lacking of good amount of the articles. Add as many peer reviewed articles as possible to support the content in the article.Pkotrike (talk) 22:06, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Review of the article

Home automation is a good concept of the security and makes human life more easy than ever. it is a technology which is most widely used in the united states because people in this states are concerned about the security and easy life components and reliable on technology.

1. This articles need more research work basing on improved technology.

2. Introduction to Home automation can be explained more clearly by including how this home automations are going to be performed some brief explanation is required.

3. using of images like devices which comes under automation can be a good idea in understanding and explaining how it works.

4. I would suggest update the information of technology and search for more journals.

5. I have gone through home automation in my previous courses there are books and journals regarding home automation so try to find more relevant articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Palusam roja (talk • contribs) 23:49, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Article Review-Class Assignment

Home Automation is an advanced technology which is being used these days. Home Automation is a technology that is developed day by day. This article mentions the different types of technologies used in Home Automation but didn't clearly mentioned how the technology is performed. So this article can be improved in multiple sections to a large extent. The introduction of this article can be improved by mentioning different ways how Home Automation technologies are implemented and can be explained more clearly. The history section of the article can be improved. There are different supporting articles which discusses about the history of Home Automation. The applications and implementations sections can be improved a lot as these are unclear and are not in depth. A lot of concepts in see also such as Home Automation for elderly and disabled, Automation hardware and software topics can be kept directly into the article. With original research the article can be well structured and more reliable information can be updated. Sai varma sarikonda (talk) 01:17, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Article Review: Rahul JC

Structure of the article is good. Home automation is a good topic that can cover too many aspects of latest technology. This article can be taken to a better shape by improving,

1. Lead section is very important in any article, it can be improved.
2. There are too many applications and technologies to be covered under Home automation. This section can be improved a lot.
3. Implementation section can be improved by adding different techniques and methods of implementation
4. See also section can be improved to a greater extent.

Rahuljc (talk) 01:55, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Article Review

Home automation is an excellent topic to work on improve. The technologies need to be updated as per upcoming trend. Some of the technologies could be helpful like, Central control point to your home like amazon echo. Smart lock home kit for security and smart security lightning bulbs.

Article also need to add some more contents like,

Business and social impacts and Future technologies. --Cranjithkumarreddy (talk) 03:00, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Article Review2

Home automation is the a type of the article that need to be updated according to the changes that take place in the day to day technology. The article is well structured but the home automation technology can be improved by updating the it to the present and can be discussed in detail. History section can be improved by adding the initiative products of the home automation along with the manufacturer details. Sravani 03:14, 15 October 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naga Sravani Dasari (talk • contribs)

Peer Review

Home automation is a fascinating topic. Structure of the article is good. This article can be improved in varied aspects,

1. Lead section is important in any article. It has to be improved a lot
2. Explanations in History section is not too precise
3. Applications and technologies section is very important for home automation. More information has to be added.
4. Different technologies should be explained in implementation section.
5. Citation and references has to be improved.

Lathivik (talk) 03:32, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

review the article

Home automation in terms of lighting and simple appliance control, and only recently has technology, Now a days very smart phones has the compatible apps to control our home control system recently apple devices has home app to connect your devices to the control all devices and this topic can improve more new technologies about this topic history section has some more improvements — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohanavamsi iska (talk • contribs) 18:03, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

review the article ==== Peer Review

Home automation is an innovative advance in industry to operate your home and for improving convenience, comfort, security and energy effiency. •Section for the future of automation should be added to discuss possible business opportunities for component suppliers, equipment makers, service providers and software vendors. •More images should be added to gallery to show Home Automation through the years from infancy to current •Section to show leading vendors and various products they offer in the field.

Lunchmeat30 (talk) 01:00, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Proposed merger of Home automation into Building automation

In case the above template does not link to the correct discussion page, it should be possible to find it [here]. --KaiKemmann (talk) 12:52, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Preferences

Home automation is nothing new, but a recent boom in smart-home tech has thrust it straight into the spotlight. Smart-home kits, sensors and gadgets have been a dominating presence at CES for the past two years, with big names like Apple, Google, GE and Microsoft right there in the thick of it. All that action adds up to a rapidly growing number of things in the "Internet of Things," along with a variety of platforms competing to control them all. That might make the idea of getting your smart home started a little bit overwhelming, but don't worry. It's actually easier than ever to start automating your home -- provided you know your options.

What kinds of 'things' can I automate?

"Smart home" is a pretty broad term, covering a huge number of connected gadgets, systems and appliances that do a wide variety of different things. "Home automation" is slightly less broad, referring specifically to things in your home that can be programmed to function automatically. In years past, those automations were pretty basic -- lamp timers, automated holiday lighting and so on -- but that's fast been changing thanks to the recent sprawl of smart-home tech aimed at mainstream consumers.

The possibilities are immense, ranging from lights and locks to cameras and coffee makers. The common denominator is automation, and a promise that these devices can save you time, save you money or make your life a little easier. An automated lamp might turn on by itself as soon as you walk into the room. An automated thermostat might turn the heat down when it detects you've left for the day, then back on when it thinks you're on your way back. Some of the most popular categories along these lines are lighting, home security, climate control and kitchen automation. In the coming weeks, we'll be exploring all of these in greater detail through a series of additional features, so stay tuned for those.

Robot buddy "who" interacts with humans, e.g. Robot Rovio:

The latest version or the most widely used home automation in recent times is Robot buddy automation in which the communication is with humans and not the devices or machines unlike in the first generation Zigbee technology. This technology is highly sophisticatedand one of the best examples of this technology is Robot Rovio. By the means of the Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) the desired adapter is developed and integrated to service the Robot Rovio into a smart home. There are various forms of services designed to explore the possibilities derived from the integration of service robots in the smart home. The future of smart homes points clearly towards the ambient intelligence paradigm.[3] In this environment, service robots are completely integrated in the home and it is easy to imagine scenarios in which robots and smart home systems cooperate. It is because, if we consider the autonomous mower would likely to perform only when it is not raining. The another example could be to use surveillance robots to complement the information from the intrusion sensors. The ambient technology has many advantages and also the equal drawbacks one out which is the most important ones being the lack of interoperability.

In the recent times even though the technology took greater shapes in all forms still the high technology multiple heterogenous electronic devices has the independcent nature and they are very difficult to integrate with other devices. Robot Rovio is equipped with a webcam, microphone and a loudspeaker and is controlled by using WiFi by means of any web-enabled device and its main applications are surveillance and telepresence. It was used for simultaneous localization and mapping (SLAM) in , where it was equipped with a laser pointer to map a region together with the camera.

Rovio is the best example of perfectly integrated service robots for the smart homes and it has allowed us to develop new advanced services that illustrate the benefits of interoperability in the smart home. It also has a latest technology applied to it where it has a built in camera to implement a basic garbage detection routine that allows the smart home to send the Roomba to clean whenever garbage is detected. We believe that there is an enormous potential in this kind of services and that it is not difficult or costly to enhance the capabilities that current service robots offer to the smart home.[4]Stadepell (talk) 13:34, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Automation Movie

Having expensive renovation is necessary for future. Everything is connected to main PC/central PC. Movie and surround is brought through service charges. Paying maintance fee every month. And provide gaming experience for home office user. Focusing on flight budget and travel the world with mini-mart. Hoping to get the juice of traveling and exercising which brighten your life.

Believing in seal wall and wooden fence for low floor unit. Having one balcony for air circulation. And making eat room with air opener for new customer. Height is the main problem for space, allergy and accident free. Especially design for baby and elderly. sliding door is the best wall for gas and natural air. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SummerLogan (talk • contribs) 16:21, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Home Automation

The Beauty of Home Automation is how you make your machines interact with you harmony and understand how to serve you to make your life is a breeze. We should write the article without marketing for any automation brand. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tareqaltabshi (talk • contribs) 06:57, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Tareq AlTabshi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tareqaltabshi (talk • contribs) 07:02, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

security of home

by the IOT security of home will be completly changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:90A2:FD7A:4DA3:7EF:5388:7ABB (talk) 11:13, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

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Proposed merge with SMART home technology

Looks like an AfC got accepted when an article exists already for it - unless I'm mistaking the articles? – The Grid (talk) 20:48, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Hopefully, considering that Smart Home are nowadays synonymous with Home Automation, this merging of sections is probably gonna be beneficial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.72.171.58 (talk) 06:51, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

I oppose this merge. ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 14:30, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

@RichardWeiss: Any reason why the oppose? I just see a lot of overlap with the article to this one. – The Grid (talk) 13:35, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Sure but overlapping happens all the time on Wikipedia; they are, however, separate topics. They are also both likely to expand hugely over the coming years, we are on the edge of a revolution. ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 15:04, 26 July 2019 (UTC)