Talk:Honeynut squash/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ealdgyth (talk · contribs) 20:24, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

I’ll get to this shortly. Ealdgyth - Talk 20:24, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

• General:
  • What makes this site a reliable source?

It's a proper digital magazine, with editors and professional writers. This writer is a nutritionist, and has a master's degree in nutrition. The article is very factual and informative, all content accurate, matching the other sources. ɱ (talk) 17:47, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

• Attributes:
  • "The skin is dark tan to orange, also referred to as a "deep honey color", giving the squash its name, in addition to its sweetness." the "in addition to its sweetness" is tacked on and a bit unclear what its referring to. Can we reword a bit here?

Saying that the skin color gives the squash its name, though its sweetness is also attributed to why "honey" is in the name. Pretty complex thing to say; I don't know any better way. ɱ (talk) 17:47, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I reworded to "The skin is dark tan to orange, also referred to as a "deep honey color". The color of the skin as well as the sweetness of the flesh is what gives the variety its name."

Alright, thanks! ɱ (talk) 18:01, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

• • "and turns dark tan to orange on the vine in the last few weeks" but we were already told the ripe color above, so this is redundant. Suggest "and turns honey-colored on the vine in the last few weeks" or similar.

Agreed, thanks. ɱ (talk) 18:11, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

• • "The squash average 2.5 to 4 inches wide, and four to five inches in length, as opposed to most butternuts at 10 to 11 inches long." Two things here - you need all numerals here per the MOS, and you really should have conversion templates also for the non-imperial using rest of the planet.

Done, sorry! ɱ (talk) 18:11, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Nothing to be sorry about! It's hard to remember everything... Ealdgyth - Talk 14:31, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

• • "grow on a restricted vine" I'm a gardener and I have only the vaguest idea what is meant by "restricted vine" ... is this similar to the "determinate" tomato vines (that still take over my garden .... )

This was the term used in the source, and apparently many similar plant breeding sources. I can't seem to find a clear definition, but I'm guessing the vines are pruned so they don't get out of hand, similar to how grapevines are kept so orderly in vineyards. ɱ (talk) 18:11, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Ha! [https://books.google.com/books?id=6LrTV5hqqJEC&pg=PA93&lpg=PA93&dq=%22restricted+vine%22+gardening&source=bl&ots=RVdCNIH96k&sig=ACfU3U05PMd_btVAZHTIc8zJ14HbbzjoEg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijlOv00L_nAhXNZs0KHUcSDn4Q6AEwBXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22restricted%20vine%22%20gardening&f=false Google books result shows it basically means "dwarf vine" ... Ealdgyth - Talk 14:31, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Okay, but then articles like this seem to state that they are pruned and managed to a certain size, which probably also gives them more energy toward bearing fruit (grapes or gourds). ɱ (talk) 18:00, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

• • How do they can? (As much curiosity on my part - hubby is a squash fiend...)

This is such a new variety, I don't think anyone's tried this! I don't see any information on it, unfortunately. ɱ (talk) 18:11, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

• • How do they compare in storage to the butternut variety or other winter squashes? -

Added. ɱ (talk) 19:30, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

• History:
  • "professor emeritus of horticulture" was he emeritus at the time?

Presumably. This is the same way the articles I cited refer to him. I can't find a bio for him. ɱ (talk) 19:34, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

• I randomly googled three phrases and only turned up Wikipedia mirrors. Earwig's tool shows no sign of copyright violation.

I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:28, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Ok, replied to all. ɱ (talk) 19:34, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay - got home Tuesday from being out on the road with hubby and promptly got sick. Am feeling better today should be able to pick this back up tomorrow. Ealdgyth - Talk 18:16, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Sounds good, thanks. Hope you feel good soon! ɱ (talk) 20:38, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Mostly done ... just two things ... Ealdgyth - Talk 14:31, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

@Ɱ: Sorry to nag... Ealdgyth (talk) 14:42, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, let's see... ɱ (talk) 17:51, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Looks good. Dealing with the paperwork now. Sorry for the delay... still recovering from whatever crud I picked up. --Ealdgyth (talk) 14:42, 19 February 2020 (UTC)