Talk:Hurricane Barry (2019)

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Barry (2019)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Hurricane Noah (talk · contribs) 11:02, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

I have deleted my original review. Ella524 (talk) 13:34, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Review reopened

In this case, a brand new Wikipedian opened this review on their first edit, and decided to pass it even though they were completely unable to judge the "Broad in its coverage" criterion. This only shows how unready they are to be a GA reviewer, and I have reopened the review so that a new reviewer can be found to redo the entire review. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:57, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

BlueMoonset, the new user turned out to be the person who nominated the article for a GA review. They have been blocked and NOOBSKINSPAMMER was blocked for 3 days. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 21:16, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

I see plenty of issues with the article that need to be addressed... I will leave comments later today. Noah^Talk 11:03, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Dreamy Jazz, thanks for letting me know. Hurricane Noah, as this was an out-of-process nomination by someone who had made no edits at all to the article when they first tried to nominate it on May 19 and succeeded on June 3 (if someone hasn't made significant edits prior, they have to consult with regular editors on the talk page prior to nominating, which was not done), and very minor edits since—and socked to try to pass it—I have reverted the nomination. There is no need to spend time on an article that, as you note, has plenty of issues. Indeed, I'd suggest deleting this page altogether, so it's available in the future for when editors have brought the article closer to the GA criteria and one is ready to do a genuine nomination. Thanks for being willing to take this on. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:28, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Actually, do we need to keep this page around since its edit history is the proof of the socking? If so, perhaps it should simply be archived. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:35, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Barry (2019)/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Hurricane Noah (talk · contribs) 02:26, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Will do this one tomorrow and/or Wednesday. Noah^Talk 02:26, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

I really do apologize, but I won't be able to do this until the weekend (ie Friday night and Saturday) due to a serious google security breach as well as additional RL issues. I am concerned about the mental well-being of one of my friends and need to be there for him. Noah^Talk 16:37, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

References

• FN1: Should be cite news, please use title case on the title (only do this to English sources in articles), and delete the website parameter as it isn't needed.
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• General1: I would remove middle initials since you don't have this information for everyone.
• General2: Be consistent when giving locations. If you don't have them for every ref, don't list it.
• FN3: Should be cite news, title case here as well, and delete website parameter.
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• FN4: Should be cite report... Actually, the NHC graphical outlook archive isn't a website. You should specify the time for the information which is given in current issuance=... This should be formatted like "Two-Day Graphical Tropical Weather Outlook: 2:00 pm EDT, Mon Oct 12, 2020" or something similar.
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• FN5: See the above.
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• FN7: First1 should be Jack
  •  Done "Beven, Beven". LOL! ~ Destroyeraa🌀 18:06, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• FN16: Last name is Bann... also, could you please find a first name?
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• FN17: Usage of this source is OR since you must interpret the map. Barry isn't explicitly mentioned.
  •  Done. Removed.~ Destroyeraa🌀 18:06, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• FNs18 & 19: You may replace these with the TCR (one citing only) as it has a table of all watches and warnings.
  •  Done
• FN20: Title case is needed, delete the publisher parameter and replace it with "newspaper=The Times-Picayune/The New Orleans Advocate"
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• FNs21, 23, 26, 30, 35, 40: See above
• FN22: Title Case
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• FN24: Also can be replaced by TCR
• FN25: Delete the author parameter and add "News" to the work parameter after the KATC
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• FN27: Title case
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• FN28: Title case. Website is not a publisher... The work should be the publisher (website is not needed).
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• FN31: You don't need to list out the parent company here. You can just say publisher=The Weather Channel and be okay. Delete website parameter in this case. Make sure it is also cite news.
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• FN32: Title case.
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• FN33: First name?
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• FN34: Title case, missing publisher, and should be cite news.
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• FN36: Title case, work isnt needed, publisher should be Houma Today.
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• FN38: Delete website parameter
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• FN39: Title case, the work is actually the publisher (work isnt a website)
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• FN41: Title case, delete work parameter
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• FN42: Title case, delete website parameter
  •  Done, and add "publisher=CNN"
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• FN43: Access date formatting needs standardized, language parameter is unnecessary, delete website parameter, add a publisher parameter "publisher=People"... See Template:Cite magazine {{cite magazine}}: Empty citation (help)
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• FN44: Title case, delete work parameter and transfer that information to the publisher (publisher isnt a website)
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• FN45: Title should be "Event: Tornado in Forrest, MS [2019-07-14 05:25 CST-6]", should be cite report, add "series=Storm Events Database"
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• FN47: See above as it is similar.
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• FN46: Name formats need to be consistent with other refs.
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• FN48: Title case, delete website parameter, and should be cite news.
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• FN49: Title case, delete website parameter, and publisher should be Advance Local (make sure to fix this on the other ref too)
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• FN50: Should be cite news and delete the website parameter
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• FN51: Missing date, accessdate, publisher, first1, last1 (see bottom of the source page for author), and needs to be cite news.
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• FN52: Title case and agency should be a publisher.
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• FN53: See above.
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This should be it for the sources. I know you are eventually gunning for FAs so I gave you a source formatting review. This is all I will do for now since it took a couple of hours to look over everything. Noah^Talk 15:34, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Lead

• Hurricane Barry was an asymmetrical Category 1 hurricane that made landfall in Louisiana in July 2019. I would give some general details about impact in the first sentence rather than details about Barry's structure.
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• over the Midwest on July 2 It's okay... you can say Kansas here as the midwest is a large region.
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• The system eventually emerged into the Gulf of Mexico on July 10, whereupon the National Hurricane Center (NHC) designated it as a potential tropical cyclone later. Again, this is a bit too vague. Could you add something about the state it emerged from? The GoM is rather large.
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• Early on July 11, the system developed into a tropical depression and later into the second named storm of the 2019 Atlantic hurricane season. On July 13, Barry attained maximum 1-minute sustained winds of 75 mph (120 km/h), with a minimum central pressure of 993 millibars (29.3 inHg), becoming the first hurricane of the season. Okay... this is where the lead gets a bit choppy. If you want to relate Barry to the season, you should do this directly after you mention the "wettest records". Say Barry was the second named storm and first hurricane of the 2019 Atlantic hurricane season. and make sure to source it with Atlantic HURDAT (there is a template on Wikipedia for this). As for the actual met... The system developed into a tropical depression early on July 11 and strengthened into a tropical storm later that day. Barry continued to strengthen over the next couple of days, peaking around 12:00 UTC on July 13 as a Category 1 hurricane with maximum sustained winds of 75 mph (120 km/h) and a pressure of 993 mbar (29.32 inHg). or something similar.
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• Later that day, Barry made landfall on Marsh Island and second landfall in Intracoastal City, Louisiana, both times as a Category 1 hurricane. --> Later that day, Barry made its first landfall on Marsh Island and another in Intracoastal City, Louisiana, both times as a Category 1 hurricane.
• Landfall is overlinked in the lead.
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• Barry subsequently weakened to tropical storm status soon after due to land interaction. --> After moving inland, Barry quickly weakened, falling to tropical depression status by July 15. (Note: I removed the TS mention as it wouldn't take much for a 5 mph fall)
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• 'The storm continued weakening, and finally degenerated into a remnant low over northern Arkansas on July 15, before dissipating on July 19. The bolded part really isn't needed. I would start this with something like "Barry tracked (direction) and degenerated into a remnant low..."
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• Barry was one of four hurricanes to hit Louisiana at that intensity in the month of July At what intensity?
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• Numerous Tropical Storm watches and warnings were issued ahead of the storm. As Barry was predicted to make landfall as a hurricane, the Tropical Storm warnings were later upgraded into Hurricane warnings. Tropical storm and hurricane should not be capitalized.
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• Officials warned of significant impacts from Barry, including high winds, storm surge, and several feet of rain. I dont see why this should be mentioned in the lead. If these effects did occur, then you simply state it as such.
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@Hurricane Noah: Done with the lead. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 21:22, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

I will return to do the rest in a bit. Noah^Talk 20:11, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Lead is reviewed. Noah^Talk 20:31, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

@Hurricane Noah: I’m glad you didn’t immediately fail it. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 20:55, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Meteorological history

• You should avoid starting sentences with dates as it chops off the flow of the prose.
• a broad low pressure area exited from the Florida Panhandle into the northeastern Gulf of Mexico, Hyphenate "low pressure" area (check for the other two occurrences in the met) and delete the bolded text. After panhandle, add "and tracked".
  •  Done
• scattered thunderstorms link Atmospheric Convection.
  •  Not done Why? ~ Destroyeraa🌀 22:55, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
    • Because thunderstorm activity and convection are the same concept. Noah^Talk 22:59, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
      • I still think people know what scattered thunderstorms are. I think I should link convection to atmospheric convection, thoug.h ~ Destroyeraa🌀 23:43, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
• It moved southwestward and curved to the west. why?
  •  Partly done. The TCR only saws that it moved east of a mid-level ridge.~ Destroyeraa🌀 22:56, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
• Weather system You don't need to say this in the article. You can simply say system.
  •  Done
• due to its threat of producing tropical storm force winds over the United States within a few days. You could simplify this to "due to the threat it posed to the United States".
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• At that time, the low pressure area was experiencing some northerly wind shear, which was expected to decrease. link Wind shear#Vertical component on wind shear.
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• The NHC described the atmospheric conditions, including water temperatures of over 86 °F (30 °C), as "ideal for intensification" You should tell the story of the storm, not the agency. The atmospheric conditions were NOT ideal given the shear. The NHC states in the source that atmospheric conditions would become ideal by 48h and beyond. You should say sea surface temperatures of 86–88 °F (30–31 °C) to have the official term and since a range is given by the source.
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• Early on July 11, the system developed into a tropical depression in the northern Gulf of Mexico, about 200 mi (320 km) south of Mobile, Alabama. The depression quickly intensified into Tropical Storm Barry You should mention the UTC time for the first event and then say six hours later for the TS strength.
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• By that time, the thunderstorms had increased to the south of the circulation. You should clarify this is the system's circulation.
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• This was due to northerly wind shear and dry air near the center Which was the result of this? The banding or the lack of thunderstorms? You could clarify by saying "the latter". Also, I believe the TCR mentions this was mid-level dry air.
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• Despite the asymmetric structure of the storm, Barry gradually intensified. Why would that hinder intensification? This is quite vague.
  •  Done. Removed. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 01:39, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
• The NHC estimated that Barry attained Category 1 hurricane status by 12:00 UTC that day, concluding that Barry was producing a small area of hurricane-force winds. This was based on observations from the Hurricane Hunters, Doppler weather radar wind estimates of 75 mph (121 km/h), and recorded sustained winds of 72 mph (116 km/h) at Eugene Island oil field.[11] Simultaneously, the storm reached its peak intensity, with a minimum central pressure of 993 millibars (29.3 inHg).[2] The first and last sentences could be simplified a good bit. You need not mention the NHC here. You should simply mention the peak at 75 mph/993 mbar and then the observations that back it up. You will need to link hurricane hunters though. Also, what kind of sustained winds?
  •  Partly done Hurricane hunters already linked. Rest was chopped down. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 01:39, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
• Now inland, the hurricane quickly weakened to tropical storm status just six hours after its upgrade. --> "Moving inland, ... status three hours after landfall." I recommend changing the sentence to that because the decline wasn't particularly notable. Not sure why AccuWeather is needed here though.
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• Progressing farther inland, We get it already.. jk
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• Barry further weakened to a tropical depression at 21:00 UTC on July 14 over Northwestern Louisiana Not supported by TCR; check time and location.
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• At 21:00 UTC on July 15, Barry degenerated into a remnant low over northern Arkansas,[15] Also changed in post-season reanalysis.
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• which degenerated into a trough a day later over southern Missouri. there is an exact time for this.
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• During the next several days, Barry's remnant moved eastward while gradually weakening, with the WPC issuing their final advisory on the storm at 21:00 UTC on July 17.[16] Early on July 19, Barry's remnant was absorbed into another frontal system off the coast of New Jersey.[17] The NHC cut the track off at 12:00 UTC on July 16. I would recommend you change the article to match this. Noah^Talk 02:15, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
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• Barry was one of four hurricanes to hit Louisiana at Category 1 intensity in the month of July, the others being Bob in 1979, Danny in 1997, and Cindy in 2005.[1] Is there a reason that this poor guy is by himself? I think it should be mentioned right after the landfalls.
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I will come back and review the rest of the met tonight. I did paragraph one for now. Noah^Talk 21:18, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

The rest is done. Noah^Talk 02:15, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Preparations

Disclaimer that the preps may still need to be expanded based upon what you discover when you search for new info. I am just reviewing what is already there for now. Noah^Talk 02:29, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

• You need to make sure the watches and warnings are all together in this section. You should cite the TCR once for the whole paragraph. You can mention the specific UTC times that they were issued.
  •  Partly done
• Due to United States Army Corps of Engineers fears that levees would be overtopped in Plaquemines Parish, Louisiana by storm surge atop elevated streams, a mandatory evacuation was ordered for the parish effective on the morning of July 11. The evacuation order affected approximately 8,000–10,000 residents. Add a comma after LA. The source mentions historically high river levels, which likely is worth noting here. Personally, the first sentence should be rewritten to just state what the fears were. I would take the part about the order being issued and add it to the second sentence. Eg. "a mandatory evacuation was ordered for the parish effective the morning of July 11, affecting 8,000–10,000 residents."
  •  Done
• Carnival Valor - Ship name needs to be italicized.
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• New Orleans mayor Job title needs to be capitalized.
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• citing a Category 3 hurricane as the threshold I would rather this be "citing Category 3 status as the threshold".
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• Mississippi governor Job title needs to be capitalized.
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I reviewed what is currently there. Noah^Talk 02:53, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Impact

Disclaimer that the impact may still need to be expanded based upon what you discover when you search for new info. I am just reviewing what is already there for now. Noah^Talk 02:29, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

• Florida panhandle and Texas coast Both are referring to regions and should be capitalized.
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• Wind gusts reached 56 mph (91 km/h) at Sabine Pass, Texas.[2] This should belong in elsewhere section?
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• 6 to 9 in (150 to 230 mm) "6-to-9" and the same for the mm measurement.
  •  Not done Why? ~ Destroyeraa🌀 12:59, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
    • Because it is a compound adjective modifying the noun. Noah^Talk 13:11, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
• The strongest recorded winds on land was 66 mph (106 km/h) Subject verb agreement.
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• One tornado struck the Gentilly neighborhood in New Orleans, damaging two homes EF status?
  • Pinging ChessEric. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 12:59, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
    • @Destroyeraa: It was in the article, but the NCDC never said anything about it. Therefore, I listed it as only a report.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 17:30, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
• Flooding should be linked earlier than it is.
  •  Partly done Removed the link altogether. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 22:49, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
• Louisiana coast Capitalize this as it is a region.
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• The most widespread power outages occurred where wind speeds were highest in Lafourche Parish and Terrebonne Parish, as well as eastern Baton Rouge This is a bit jumbled. "The most widespread power outages occurred in Lafourche and Terrebonne parishes, where wind speeds were highest, as well as in eastern Baton Rouge" would be better.
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• It also caused The Rolling Stones to postpone their July 14 show at the Superdome to July 15 due to Barry What is "it"?
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• Florida panhandle Capitalize this in the section for Florida.
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• In Panama City Beach The link should be here rather than where it is.
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• Five people were rescued 23 mi (37 km) southwest of Gulfport, Mississippi Comma after the state name.
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• 80,000 gallons Abbreviate to US Gal. Capital L for a liter.
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• The storm resulted in the closure of popular beaches, including those in Orange Beach and Gulf Shores. The storm caused the closures.
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• 8 inches (20 cm) make the measurement mm instead of cm.
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• Link Central Time Zone on CDT.
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• Clark County Humane Society --> The Clark County Humane Society
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• putting several animals at risk of drowning and hypothermia What happened to the animals?
  •  Done. Sadly, it killed a puppy, though the rest were rescued. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 12:45, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
• Make sure it is floodwaters throughout as flood waters is incorrect.
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• 16.59 inches (42.1 cm) Also needs to be converted to mm.
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• More than 60 mm (2.4 in) of rain fell in Toronto Specify Canada
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• the highest daily rainfall total in the month of July since 2013 Should be "its highest"
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That's everything I found pending your additions. Noah^Talk 03:24, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

• Another tidbit is that you need to cite the text for each of the six storms you mention in the see also. Noah^Talk 03:32, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Not done No, there are no sources and there doesn't need to be sources for adding storms to the see also section. The storms just need to be somewhat related.~ Destroyeraa🌀 12:32, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: Would you have comments that you would like to leave for the article? Noah^Talk 02:21, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Hurricanehink's review

• "The second tropical or subtropical cyclone, second named storm" - do we need to get into subtropical cyclone? Can't you just do "The second named storm"?
  •  Not done because of a certain Jason Rees. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:51, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
    • What does that user have to do with the awkward grammar construction? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:16, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
      • @Hurricanehink:  Partly done. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:24, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
• " falling to tropical depression stays on July 15" ?
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• Where is the source for - "and another landfall in Intracoastal City, Louisiana"? The MH only mentions the first landfall.
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• "The storm finally degenerated into a remnant low over northern Arkansas on July 15, before dissipating on July 19." - infobox says dissipation was on the 16th
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• "As Barry was predicted to make landfall as a hurricane, the tropical storm warnings were later upgraded into hurricane warnings" - this level of detail on preps seems excessive for the lead. I'd rather see more about the storm's actual impacts. The only example you give in the lead is power outages, plus the overall damage.
  •  Done
• Wouldn't it be better to mention the convection, or thunderstorms, in the first MH paragraph, rather than second?
  •  Not done
    • Not done! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:26, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
      • I still prefer mentioning it in the second paragraph, the only place to do it in the first paragraph is adding a sentence to the end @Hurricanehink:. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 17:51, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
        • Is there a reason? We generally link terms on their first usage. It doesn't make sense saying "convection, or thunderstorms" when you've already used "thunderstorms" in the first para. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:57, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
          • @Hurricanehink:  Done ~ Destroyeraa🌀 18:23, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
• "though mid-level dry air and northerly wind shear caused few thunderstorms near the center" - "caused " --> "restricted"?
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• "Due to a slight decrease in shear on the morning of July 13, climate change caused the storm's outflow to expand and banding to increase." - climate change? Wha? That's really random and seems odd
  •  Done
• "28 parishes issued emergency declarations with another 14 finalizing such declarations" - I don't get the difference between issuing emergency declarations and "finalizing" them
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• "On July 12, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar today declared" - today? In 2020?
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• "On the same day, Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant declared a state of emergency" - it had been a few sentences since a date reference, so I'd restate what day it was.
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• "Total economic losses from Barry totaled" - redundancy much?
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• Were there any Louisiana impacts other than power outages? Considering the storm made landfall there as a hurricane, the article is very light on impacts there. You have more for Alabama/Mississippi

• Any progress on this Destroyeraa? Did you try NCDC? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:33, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

• There are lots of duplicate links. Two in back to back sentences in the FL section
• Do you have a Mississippi rainfall total?
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• The first sentence of "Elsewhere" should say earlier what state you're talking about
  •  Partly done Split. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:58, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
• Any Arkansas flooding impacts other than the killed dog? RIP :'(
  •  Done
    • Don't mention "no fatalities". We generally don't mention when things don't happen, instead we write what does happen. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:33, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
      •  Done
• The infobox mentions impacts in "Oklahoma, Great Lakes region, Northeastern United States" - but the article doesn't discuss any of these areas. How come?
  •  Done. Found this near Accuweather source that covers the northeast. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 18:30, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
    • I don't see any sources for impact in Oklahoma or the Great Lakes (unless you mean Canada, as Great Lakes usually implies like Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin area). ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:26, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
• How much FEMA aid did affected areas get?
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  • @Hurricanehink and Hurricane Noah: Found this, which dates to August 27, 2019. It saysthat FEMA spent $16 million in public assistance. Should I add the total to the total costs, since this wasn't included in the AON report (dated August 9, 2019). ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:09, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
    • No, that would double up on the damage. There's the storm damage, which AON reported, and there's the money spent to undo the storm's impacts. Just mention this in the aftermath. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:10, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
      • Ok @Hurricanehink:. Added some info from FEMA. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:35, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
        • @Hurricanehink: Starting to look at NCDC. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 13:34, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

The article is in OK shape, but it looks rather similar than the last time I looked at the article (when I first helped write the article). I'm not happy with the level of coverage, so I hope you can address these issues. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:39, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: Just curious to see how you feel about the article. I wouldn't be opposed to giving a bit more time since more content is being added in. @Destroyeraa: Btw, there is a date error on FN58. Noah^Talk 23:20, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

I agree, it's almost there, just a few outstanding comments. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:28, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm unhappy you're unhappy with the amount of coverage. I hope you're happy now. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 16:16, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Hurricane Noah's Second Review

Doing a second review of the article this weekend. Noah^Talk 16:28, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Sources

I hate to be picky with things, but if you take this to FAC, some source reviewers will be quite picky. This is a combination of new things and items that weren't completely fixed the first time around. Noah^Talk 17:41, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

• FN2: Remove middle initials for all names
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• FNs 4 & 5: Remove middle initials for names. Make Example text --> series=NHC Graphical Outlook Archive. Lastly, for those refs, you need an appropriate title that conveys enough information to the reader. Something like Tropical Weather Outlook: Atlantic [200 AM EDT Mon Jul 8 2019] would be fine.
  •  Done
• FNs 6 & 10: Remove middle initials
  •  Done
• FN 14: I assume someone else added this in. It needs to be changed to have a citation format that matches every other ref. It currently has no parameters or even the citation template itself.
  • TBH, I don't think this belongs in the MH. It talks more about the impacts. Moved to impact section, fixed. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 18:30, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
• FN 15: Remove middle initial and "III"
  •  Done
• FN 23: Remove middle name
  •  Not done Name is John Bel Edwards. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 18:30, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
    • Okay... that is fine then. Noah^Talk 18:40, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
• FN 29: Remove middle initial
  •  Done
• FN 30: Publisher is incorrect... Should be "The Times-Picayune/The New Orleans Advocate".
  •  Done
• FN 34: Check the formatting for the name. It should use last and first parameters, not author parameter.
  •  Done
• FN 35: Title doesn't match and missing the meteorologist's name.
  •  Not done Tile is correct I believe, and it doesn't say the author's name on the website. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 18:30, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
    • Meteorologist: By Alex Sosnowski and title is Barry threatens lower Mississippi Valley with significant flooding, isolated tornadoes into Monday
  •  Done
• FN 40: Publisher is incorrect... Should be "The Times-Picayune/The New Orleans Advocate".
  •  Done
• FN 43: Delete agency parameter
  •  Done
• FN 45: Missing the entire citation... you will see what I mean by that.
  •  Done Uhh...IDK what happened.~ Destroyeraa🌀 18:05, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
• FN 55: Remove middle name
  •  Done
• FN 62: Add agency=Associated Press
  •  Not done No, it's by the Weather Company. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 18:30, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
    • Oops.. Meant 63... Noah^Talk 18:40, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
      •  Comment: USA Today is not owned by AP. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 19:12, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
        • This can be ignored; someone more experienced than myself with accreditation could check and see whether or not it is referring to the media or the author. Noah^Talk 19:23, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
• FN 78: Should be publisher, not agency... secondly, Federal gov't of the US is too vague. You should say "The White House"
  •  Done
• General: Be consistent with your usage of the location parameter.
• FN54: Cite error: The named reference "alnws" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page). Just so you are aware of this. Noah^Talk 02:20, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

This is all I am going to do source-wise. If there are more issues, they can be addressed by future reviews. Noah^Talk 17:41, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Lead/Prose

Lead

• and later into the second tropical storm on the same day --> "and strengthened into a tropical storm later that day"
  •  Done
• Barry attained its peak intensity I would add "as a Category 1 hurricane" after that just so people don't have to reference back that this is Cat 1 intensity. Add a comma after the word hurricane too.
  •  Not done I literally stands out in the first sentence and in the infobox. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 18:56, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
    • Some readers don't pay any attention to the infobox. We shouldn't force people to reference back. Noah^Talk 19:01, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
      •  Done
• with 1-minute sustained winds of 75 mph (120 km/h), with a minimum central pressure of 993 millibars (29.3 inHg) replace the bolded with "and"
  •  Done
• Link sustained wind... On minimum central pressure, link atmospheric pressure...
  •  Done
• Subsequently, Barry made its first landfall at Marsh Island, and another landfall in Intracoastal City, Louisiana, both times as a Category 1 hurricane When? This is too vague.
  •  Done
• Link Trough (meteorology) on the usage in the lead.
  •  Done
• Why is interstate capitalized?
  • It's a proper noun. See Interstate Highway System.
    • Oh, okay. Never had seen that before. Noah^Talk 19:01, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
• Link tornado
  •  Done

Mostly minor things remained in the lead... I will review the prose later today or tomorrow. Noah^Talk 18:14, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

• Check your usage of "also" throughout the article. It is almost always redundant. Noah^Talk 19:28, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Done. Removed 5 "also"s.~ Destroyeraa🌀 01:43, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Met

• eventually triggering a low pressure area over the Gulf of Mexico --> "Eventually triggering the formation of a..." Also, hyphenate the "low pressure" in this sentence.
  •  Done
• steered by a ridge to its west. The NHC says it is a low- to mid-level ridge.
  •  Done
• On July 9, a broad low pressure area Remove the link on LPA here since it is linked earlier.
  •  Done
• east side of a mid-level ridge Remove the link on Ridge here. Also, is this the same ridge? If so, you can just say "the ridge".
  •  Done
• due to its threat it posed to the United States within a few days. --> Due to the threat the system posed to the United States
  •  Done
• Could you incorporate dates into the middle/end of the sentences to increase the flow (mainly para 1)?
• Barry quickly intensified--> Barry had quickly intensified.
  •  Done
• Barry quickly intensified, with its central pressure dropping, despite a marginally favorable environment Is there something unusual about this?
  •  Partly done reworded. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 00:08, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

That should be it for the met. Noah^Talk 20:06, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Preparations

• including a hurricane watch Remove the link on hurricane watch as it redirects to the TC watches/warnings.
  •  Done
• Thus, a mandatory evacuation was ordered for the parish effective on the morning of July 11, affecting approximately 8,000–10,000 residents. Could you use a different word? It just doesn't sound right with effective and affecting.
  •  Done
• On the afternoon of July 11, the National Hurricane Center issued a hurricane warning for coastal Louisiana between Intracoastal City to Grand Isle, Louisiana. this is outside the paragraph with all the watches/warnings.
  •  Done

Should be it for the preps. Noah^Talk 20:16, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Impact

• GENERAL: Locations are still overlinked. Please check this out.
• High water levels occurred from the Florida Panandle to the upper Texas Coast misspelling: Panhandle
  •  Done
• Link flash flood emergency at the first mention instead
  •  Done
• In addition, a EF1 tornado was reported Remove "In addition" as each statement is always in addition to the last.
  •  Done
• a EF1 tornado was reported near New Orleans on July 10, snapping several trees and ripping the roof off a house. This tornado caused $300,000 in damage These two statements likely could be combined.
  •  Done
• The strongest recorded winds on land was 66 mph (106 km/h) Was this sustained? A gust?
  •  Done sustained winds.
• Tornado needs to be linked earlier than what it is.
  •  Done
• The storm also caused The Rolling Stones to postpone their July 14 show at the Superdome to July 15 due to heavy rain --> Heavy rain from the storm caused The Rolling Stones to postpone their July 14 show at the Superdome to the next day.
  •  Done
• In addition, a tornado warning was issued for Jackson County, Remove "in addition"
  •  Done
• 13.30 inches (338 mm) Abbreviate inches.
  •  Done
• In addition, severe thunderstorms from Barry's rainbands Remove "In addition"
  •  Done
• flash flooding flooded a car Could we use a word other than flooded since it comes directly after flooding?
  •  Done
• 2 feet (610 mm) Abbreviate feet and it should be meters instead of millimeters.
  •  Done
• 80,000 gallons (300,000 L) Can be abbreviated to US Gal
  •  Not done We also have readers from many many other countries. They don't know what a "Gal" is.
    • Could you at least make it "US Gallons" so it isn't confused with the imperial gallon? Noah^Talk 02:24, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
      •  Done
• Around 2.8 feet (850 mm) Abbreviate feet and should be meters instead of millimeters.
  •  Done
• up to 8 inches (200 mm) Abbreviate inches.
  •  Done
• In addition, several roads were underwater and closed in the city Remove "In addition"
  •  Done
• A rainfall total of 16.59 inches (421 mm) Abbreviate inches
  •  Done
• In addition, a peak rainfall amount Remove "In addition"
  •  Done
• of 4.61 inches (117 mm) Abbreviate inches
• 5.35 inches (136 mm) Abbreviate inches
• 6.09 inches (155 mm) Abbreviate inches
• 60 mm (2.4 in) This needs to be consistent with the other rainfall amounts... ie 2.4 in (60 mm)
  • This and the three above are  Done ~ Destroyeraa🌀 02:21, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
• rain fell in Toronto, Canada Comma after Canada
  •  Done
• July 16-17 --> July 16–17 Use the en dash for date ranges
  •  Done
• Rome, New York Comma after New York
  •  Done
• than 3 inches (76 mm) Abbreviate inches
• Lancaster, Pennsylvania Comma after Pennsylvania
  •  Done

That should be it the for impact. Noah^Talk 00:48, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Aftermath

• caused wild animals to be washed It didn't cause them to be washed into the homes, it simply washed them into the homes.
  •  Done
• an outbreak of snakes I think the more appropriate word is pit, nest, or den for a group of snakes.
  •  Done -large den of snakes. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 00:08, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
• was also ceased. --> had also ceased.
  •  Done

Should be it. Noah^Talk 00:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: If you see anything else that I missed, please feel free to add it here. Noah^Talk 00:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@Destroyeraa: Any updates on progress? Noah^Talk 15:13, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

• Could you also add alternate text to images for those who have images disabled per the MOS accessibility? Noah^Talk 00:01, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
  •  Done. @Hurricane Noah: Everything is done now I think/. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 01:52, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Final

Criteria

Good Article Status - Review Criteria

Further information: WP:WIAGA

A good article is—

1. Well-written:

(a) the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and

(b) it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.

2. Verifiable with no original research:

(a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;

(b) reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose);

(c) it contains no original research; and

(d) it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.

3. Broad in its coverage:

(a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic; and

(b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

(a) media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and

(b) media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.

Result

1. Well-written:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (prose)	There were sentence structure issues, grammatical errors, abbreviation issues, and several other problems (see reviews above). These issues now appear to be resolved. NoahTalk 02:01, 7 November 2020 (UTC)	Pass
(b) (MoS)	The article now complies with the MOS; the only real issue was lack of alt text for images. NoahTalk 02:01, 7 November 2020 (UTC)	Pass

2. Verifiable with no original research:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (references)	There were large quantities of formatting errors, wrong publisher names, and inconsistencies that were pointed out and addressed by the nominator. NoahTalk 00:12, 7 November 2020 (UTC)	Pass
(b) (citations to reliable sources)	The references for the article all were to reliable sources. NoahTalk 00:12, 7 November 2020 (UTC)	Pass
(c) (original research)	There was no original research present. NoahTalk 00:12, 7 November 2020 (UTC)	Pass
(d) (copyvio and plagiarism)	There were no copyright violations or plagiarism. NoahTalk 00:12, 7 November 2020 (UTC)	Pass

3. Broad in its coverage:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (major aspects)	The article lacked a lot of details initially on both impact and aftermath. There were major expansions to the impact via information from the storm events database and news sources. The entire aftermath section is a new addition of information. The article now appears to be comprehensive enough information-wise. NoahTalk 00:26, 7 November 2020 (UTC)	Pass
(b) (focused)	There were never any issues with excessive detail. NoahTalk 00:26, 7 November 2020 (UTC)	Pass

4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.

Notes	Result
There were not issues with neutrality. NoahTalk 00:26, 7 November 2020 (UTC)	Pass

5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

Notes	Result
There haven't been any recent edit wars or content disputes. NoahTalk 00:26, 7 November 2020 (UTC)	Pass

6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales)	All images have appropriate liscensure. NoahTalk 00:26, 7 November 2020 (UTC)	Pass
(b) (appropriate use with suitable captions)	All images have appropriate captions. NoahTalk 00:26, 7 November 2020 (UTC)	Pass

Result	Notes
Pass	After an extensive and long review process, I believe this article now meets the good article criteria. NoahTalk 02:01, 7 November 2020 (UTC)