Talk:Hurricane Jose (1999)

Merge?

Should this article be merged? Not too much useful content, and much of it can be placed easily in the seasonal article. Hurricanehink 20:43, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree,but i have this storm in my LNBS hurricanes.It'll do better there.HurricaneCraze32 23:02, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Me too. This one is even less notable than its companion Kyle (2002). Definately merge this one. -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 01:00, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

OK, than it's agreed. What should be kept? Hurricanehink 04:32, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Impact and Lack of Retirement.HurricaneCraze32 23:41, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Sure. Axe ready. -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 18:30, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Todo

I revived the article, much more usefull, and even has some damage photos I received permission to use. Is it a keeper. I'm assuming this is likely a Start class, but I could be wrong. íslenska<font color="ff2020">hurikein #12</font color> <font color="ffffff">_(samtal)</font color> 01:26, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I put it as a start class. First thing, prove that you received permission. If you emailed the website owner, you should copy and paste the emails. Exact damage totals would be appreciated. The article needs more info in general. --Hurricanehink (talk) 01:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Here's the reply he sent;

Thank you for not stealing our images. You are welcome to use them with a credit and link for each image to our site.

Nick Maley

Proof? íslenska hurikein #12 _(samtal) 02:23, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

What about the mail you sent to him? You should put that in the image page. --Hurricanehink (talk) 02:42, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Done. íslenska hurikein #12 _(samtal) 12:07, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Cool, good job. --Hurricanehink (talk) 12:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I looked in many places for damage estimates or totals, but I found nothing. Are there any places you know about that might have damage info that the article needs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Icelandic Hurricane (talk • contribs)

Not sure. You should google Hurricane Jose and see what you get. --Hurricanehink (talk) 21:30, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Done that to some extent. íslenska hurikein #12 _(samtal) 21:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

You need a source for the aftermath photo. --Hurricanehink (talk) 17:03, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Done. íslenska hurikein #12 _(samtal) 17:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Format of the references has been fixed. I think it's on the cusp of B class, but it may need more information. Thegreatdr 15:36, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I think this is somewhere in the template code for the Infobox, but the conversion of units on the maximum 1-minute sustained winds is off. The base measurement is 85 knots, which corresponds to about 98 mph or 157 km/h. It's particularly glaring in this case, since 155 km/h is not a good match to 100 mph. I don't know about the inner workings of the template codes, much less the functions within them (specifically "highest 1-min winds"), but the combination of the rounding errors here leads to an odd result. Lincmad (talk) 22:36, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contribs) 23:12, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

• "The depression strengthened and by October 18, it was upgraded to Tropical Storm Jose" – This sentence is worded weird to me. How about, "The depression intensified and was subsequently upgraded to Tropical Storm Jose on October 18."?

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "The storm tracked northwestward and while approaching the Leeward Islands, it was upgraded to a hurricane on the following day." – Same as above comment...seems worded weird. Suggestion..."The storm tracked northwestward and was upgraded to a hurricane the following day as it approached the northern Leeward Islands."

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "With winds of 100 mph (155 km/h) Category 2" – Strange wording there. Also, 100 mph is one of those special situations where the Wikipedia convert template gives a value other than what it is. 100 mph should be 160 km/h as is used by the NHC.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "Further deterioration occurred and Jose had been reduced to a tropical storm before landfall in Tortola on October 21." – "had been reduced" to "weakened"?

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "However, on the following day, wind shear increased again, while sea surface temperatures were decreasing, causing Jose to weaken and quickly transition into an extratropical cyclone." – This sentence needs parallelism. Keep it present or past tense, but not both.

• Better?--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "A combination of hurricane force winds and flooding in Antigua and Barbuda destroyed at least 500 homes, left 90% of homes without electricity and another 50% experiencing disrupted telephone service, and caused 12 injuries and one fatality" – Run-on sentence.

• Better?--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "Dvorak satellite classifications began at 1200 UTC on October 17, and six hours later, the system developed into Tropical Depression Fourteen while located about 700 miles (1,100 km) east of the Windward Islands." – Link Dvorak satellite classifications.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "The upgrade was due to impressive appearance on satellite imagery, mostly outflow and banding features, as well as satellite intensity estimates of winds reaching 40 mph (65 km/h)." – Not sure if this sentence is needed. If you want to keep it, though, reword it.

• I think I will go with your former suggestion--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "Because there was no "immediately identifiable hindrances to further strengthening", intensity forecasts indicated Jose reaching hurricane status by late on October 19." – English teachers say, "Never start a sentence with "Because"".

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "Later that day, three computer models predicted that the anticyclone over Jose would move west-northwestward, causing the storm to potential strengthen to a major hurricane." – Potential to potentially.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "Although atmospheric conditions previously seemed favorable for further significant strengthening, water vapor imagery indicated that an upper-trough was extending from the western Caribbean Sea to the eastern Bahamas, this in turn induced wind shear on Jose." – The comma after "Bahamas" should be a semicolon.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "However, Jose instead continued to weaken [10] and was only a tropical storm when it made landfall in Tortola at 1105 UTC on October 21." – Reference is not positioned correctly.

• Fixed; it actually belonged in the sentence before.--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "Around that time, the overall cloud pattern was "not impressive", though a large cluster of deep convection still has cloud tops with temperatures of −121 °F (−85 °C)." – Sentence does not have parallelism. Probably is not needed [the sentence] anyways.

• I removed that sentence--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "Later on October 23, no further reconnaissance aircraft flights occurred, causing the National Hurricane Center to rely on satellite intensity estimates and surface observations." – Another unneeded sentence.

• Yeah, I guess not--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "Despite this, the National Hurricane Center noted that "the deep convection is poorly organized enough that strengthening is unlikely before extratropical transition in 36 hours". – Period goes inside the quote, and the sentence needs a comma after "noted that".

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "By 1200 UTC on October 24, the storm once again reached hurricane intensity. Shortly thereafter, Jose passed about 300 miles (480 km) east of Bermuda." --> "By 1200 UTC on October 24, the storm once again attained hurricane intensity as it passed several hundred miles east of Bermuda."

• I made a compromise that you probably shouldn't have a problem with.--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "Around then, the tropical storm watch that was issued for Trinidad and Tobago was discontinued." – "Around then" is very vague.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "The Governor of the United States Virgin Islands Charles Wesley Turnbull issued a curfew effective at 6 p.m. AST on October 20" – Comma right before "Charles" and comma right after "Turnbull".

• Not sure about this, but I will do it.--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "At another location, wind gusts reached 100 mph (160 km/h) and precipitation amounts up to 15 inches (380 mm)" – What location?

• The place of observation is not specified in the source, but it might differ from the previous location, which was The Valley.--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "...only to be surpassed by Hurricane Lenny about a month later." – No need for original research.

• It really isn't original research, since the table at the given source easily backs up this statement.--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "Across the island, the storm killed one person, injured 12, left an elderly blind man missing, and 500 houses were destroyed including a newly built church." – Parallelism again. "Across the island, the storm killed one person, injured twelve, left an elderly blind man missing..." (was he found?) "...and destroyed 500 hours, including a newly-built church.".

• Better? Also, the blind man wasn't found according to all of the sources I looked through related to the storm. However, I don't think we can assume it was another fatality.--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "In Puerto Rico, especially the eastern side of the island, some areas experienced tropical storm force winds." – More strange wording.

• Better?--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• "In the United States Virgin Islands, tropical storm force winds were measured at a few locations." – More vague wording.

• Better?--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• Make sure all values are rounded to the nearest five.

• I don't have to when it comes to weather observations.--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• Link all terms not known a layman, on their first instance.

• Better?--12george1 (talk) 03:16, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• St. Vincent is a dablink.

• Since it include the Grenadines, I am going to link it to Saint Vincent and the Grenadines.--12george1 (talk) 03:04, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• The External Links "Irish Examiner" and "Associated Press" are dead.

• The former was replaced with a URL from the WayBack Machine, but the latter could not be recovered and was removed from the section.--12george1 (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

On hold until these issues are fixed. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Everything is good now. Passed the article. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 04:04, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 15 December 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved  — Amakuru (talk) 10:35, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

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Hurricane Jose (1999) → Hurricane Jose – Only storm named Jose that became a hurricane. Suggesting the dab be also moved to Tropical Storm Jose. MarioProtIV (^talk/_contribs) 01:45, 15 December 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 13:30, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

• Support – there has been only one Hurricane Jose, so no need to include the year. For moving the dab/list/set index/whatever it goes back to this discussion. ~ KN2731 {talk} 08:30, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose think the removal of year in these articles is going to far. By all means primary redirect to the 1999 storm but having (1999) is helpful. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:15, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
  • How is it too far? Having the year for the only storm named Jose which became a hurricane is unnecessary IMO, and lots of other stuff (like Hurricane Hermine, Hurricane Matthew, Hurricane Gustav, Hurricane Hanna, etc.) only became hurricanes once when the rest of the same name didn't become hurricanes (except for 2002 Gustav). So I think it is better that the year be removed as it's unnecessary. --MarioProtIV (^talk/_contribs) 14:41, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
• Support per a recent RfC about this issue that closed as "don't disambiguate". Pppery 15:59, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

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