Talk:Hurricane Lorena (2019)

Severe Weather Event 9/23

Arizona received an enhanced risk for severe weather today (9/23) with a 30% hatched risk. This is uncommon in Arizona and if significant severe weather does occur, a subsection should be added on it. --INFOWeather1 (talk) 19:44, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

@INFOWeather1: Can you please give me some references to the severe weather alerts or maybe article depicting rainfall or potential damage in Arizona? Jayab314 22:53, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

SPC/WPC reports pages... I dont have anything on hand at this moment --INFOWeather1 (talk) 17:03, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Usernameunique (talk · contribs) 23:54, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Infobox

• The "1-minute sustained" portion appears only in the infobox.
• 985 mbar (hPa) appears only in the infobox and lead.
• 29.09 inHg appears only in the infobox.
• $50+ million figure appears only in the infobox and lead.
  •  Semi-done It is not specified where most of the damage from Lorena came from, so I can't add it to a specific Impact section. Also, the pressure is in fact mentioned in the meteorological history already. Everything else fixed. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 14:25, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
    • I may just be missing it, but where is the pressure mentioned in "Meteorological history"? Also, why not add a short summary (just a couple sentences or a paragraph) between "Preparations and Impact" and "Mexico" giving a general overview? That would be a natural place to add in the $50+ million figure. --Usernameunique (talk) 06:47, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
      • Sorry, I removed the pressure from the Meteorological history on accident at some point. I re-added it. Also, isn't the lead already a general overview of the impacts? I feel that is unnecessary. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 00:43, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Lead

• Lorena was the thirteenth named storm and seventh and final hurricane of the 2019 Pacific hurricane season. — Appears only in lead.
  • Y Fixed, although typically mentioning it in the lead is enough. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 14:41, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Looks like "seventh and final" is still only in the lead. --Usernameunique (talk) 06:47, 12 April 2021 (UTC)\
      • Ok, I added that part. Saying "... and final" isn't really needed to be mentioned in this section again, IMO. We're talking about the storm, not how far in the season it had formed. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 00:46, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• With increasing convection or thunderstorm development — Does the "or" mean that "thunderstorm development" is being equated to convection? Also, the term "convection" appears only in the lead.
  • Y Fixed wording. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 14:41, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• It's odd that Tropical Storm Mario is mentioned prominently in the lead and main image, but mentioned only in passing in the body of the article.
  •  Comment. Mario is a separate storm and mentioning it too many times would be "off focus". Mario is mentioned once in the Baja California Peninsula impact section mainly because it attributed to even more dangerous surf conditions than Lorena would by itself. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 14:41, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• Anything to link "remnant low" to?
  • Y Added links. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 14:41, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Meteorological history

• Anything to link "tropical wave" to?
  • Y Added one link to meteorological history. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 14:41, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• "NHC" should have the full name (and a link, if available) the first time it is mentioned
  • Y Done. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 14:46, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• By 06:00 UTC September 17, the disturbance quickly improved in overall organization — "quickly" is a bit odd here, since it refers to a span of time, while the first clause suggests that the remainder of the sentence will be about one fixed moment in time.
  • Y Fixed. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 14:54, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• was declared Tropical Storm Lorena — Who declared it so?

Y Fixed to specify NHC (National Hurricane Center). Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 14:54, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

• This section is one monster of a paragraph, and should be split into two or three.
  • Y Fixed.
• What does "Due to emerging" mean?
  • Y Not sure how I missed that. I have changed it to "Due to having emerged..."
• What is "a remnant low"?
  •  Comment. Although since this is a "scientific" article, I wouldn't go into much detail about it, but tropical cyclones when they weaken enough will "lose" their tropical cyclone characteristics and generally become pretty deformed and lack any real thunderstorms, and thats usually when we call them a "remnant" as a remnant of a tropical cyclone and now simply just a low pressure system. Thankfully now its linked. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 14:54, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Jalisco

• Tropical storm watches were issued — Who issued them?
  • Y Fixed to specify that Mexico issued them.
• During which time Lorena moved very close to the shorelines of the states of Colima and Jalisco during its first peak in strength. — Sentence fragment, and also confusing ("During ... during")
  • Y Fixed. Hopefully the sentence makes more sense now.

• What sort of "minor slides"? Mud slides?
  • Y Fixed to specify "landslides" according to the citation. I feel the addition of adding "minor" was unnecessary anyway. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 15:07, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Colima

• Governor of Colima, José Ignacio Peralta, stated that ... Further evaluation — When did Peralta make his statement/when was the further evaluation done?
  • Y Although the article isn't very specific on when the Governor made his statement, I can assume it happened on September 20 because thats when the article was published and there is no mention of a date. Same applies to the "evaluation". Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 15:07, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• There was a report — Who reported it?
  • Y Fixed to specify "Conagua", or Mexico's national water commission. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 15:07, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Baja California Peninsula

• in a very short period of time — "within days"?
  • Y Fixed to specify "within days"... Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 15:15, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Other states

• Residents of Sonora prepared for torrential rainfall as Lorena approached as a tropical depression. — What day was this?
  • Y Specified the date as September 21. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 15:15, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Arizona

• More than 8,000 customers statewide lost electricity in the Phoenix area — If they were in just the Phoenix area, they weren't statewide.
  • Y Fixed. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 15:28, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• Anything to link "supercell" or "supercell thunderstorm" to?
  • Y Yes, linked. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 15:15, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• This could be split into two paragraphs.
  • Y Done. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 15:15, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• A very rare phenomenon in the state also occured when an EF-1 tornado formed — Is the "very rare phenomenon" the formation of an EF-1 tornado?
  •  Comment. Yes, the state of Arizona very rarely gets tornadoes and specifically ones higher than EF0 strength. I will specify that it is rare for Arizona specifically, though. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 15:28, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• A school bus was stranded in floodwaters with 120 children — 120 people on a school bus? Really?
  •  Comment. Yes, apparently the news article here claims that. Strange. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 15:28, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
• brought aid to those in need — Any word on what type of (and how much) aid?
  •  Semi-done Couldn't find on what form of aid or how much was funded in any reports/articles. However I also added they were assessing damage and especially assessing damage related to the tornado in Willcox. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 15:28, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Overall

• Hurricaneboy23, comments above. --Usernameunique (talk) 00:22, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Usernameunique, I have finished. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 15:30, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Sorry for the delay in getting back to this, Hurricaneboy23. A few replies above. --Usernameunique (talk) 06:54, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
      • Hurricaneboy23, I still don't really agree with the lead-only approach for the points mentioned above, but—given that the main one ($50+ million damage)—is cited, it's not a big deal. You might add which page(s) of the report you're citing, but in any event, I'm passing it now. --Usernameunique (talk) 10:11, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Comments from MarioJump83

• @LightandDark2000 and Usernameunique: I think this should be passed now. There's not much to do here. MarioJump83! 09:18, 19 April 2021 (UTC)