Talk:Ibsen Nelsen

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Nineteen Ninety-Four guy talk 09:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that Dust Bowl refugee Ibsen Nelsen received the Purple Heart and the Fellowship of the American Institute of Architects?

• Source: https://dahp.wa.gov/historic-preservation/research-and-technical-preservation-guidance/architect-biographies/bio-for-ibsen-a-nelsen

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nuwhaha

Created by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 75 past nominations.

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:17, 24 August 2024 (UTC).

• Reviewing now. Dugan Murphy (talk) 22:54, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: This nomination looks good to proceed. It's new, long enough, with enough citations to sources that look reliable. This doesn't hold up the nomination, but using 2005–2024 as the publication date for the PCAD web page doesn't seem the right choice. I see that date range on the website's copyright, but nothing specific to the particular page. I think it is more appropriate to list this as undated. Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:45, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Ibsen Nelsen/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Generalissima (talk · contribs) 23:31, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Crisco 1492 mobile (talk · contribs) 14:58, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

• I intend to review this article. Crisco 1492 mobile (talk) 14:58, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Image review

• Any reason to not include a FU image of Nelsen?
• File:Environmental Sciences Building.JPG - Needs a freedom of panorama tag
• File:Boeing Museum Of Flight.jpg - Needs a freedom of panorama tag.
  • Added all these. - G

Prose review

Lede

• I'd link Pacific to Pacific Theater (World War II)
• He partnered with Russell Sabin shortly afterwards, with Gordon Bennett Varey joining the firm in 1961 to form Nelsen, Sabin, & Varey, where he designed projects such as the home of painter Morris Graves in Loleta, California. - Definitely should be split
  • Split. - G

Biography

• Julius Nelsen, a Danish-born carpenter - Any information on Ibsen's mother?
  • Unfortunately no. - G
• I'd link plains to Great Plains (non-Americans may not know the reference)
  • Done. - G
• Pacific War|Pacific Theater - We have a specific link to Pacific Theater (quoted above)
  • Done. - G[[
• He received the Purple Heart and Bronze Star for his actions during the war - The citations might be online; would be worth understanding why he received these.
  • Couldn't find them :( - G
• Mountlake Terrace, Washington - Is it worth mentioning Washington here? We established that he was active in the Washington area earlier in the paragraph.
• Sabin and Varey - It was previously identified as Sabin, Nelsen, & Varey. Also, it may be worth standardizing "and" vs. "&"
  • Done. - G
• I've edited the page. Please review.Crisco 1492 mobile (talk) 14:58, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Looks good to me. - G

Comprehensiveness

• I see that his collected papers are held at Western Washington University, which may be worth a mention.
  • Included. - G
• This obituary mentions cause of death, the name of his children, and indicates that he was friends with Grove. Also indicates how he met his wife, which segues with his military service. (Also, his involvement in preserving the Pike Place Market is mentioned in several obits - it may be worth including as an example of his preservation work).
  • Added some of that. From what I have heard the names of children are usually extraneous for less famed figures; however, the SF obit mentions that his sons were artists. - G
• This obit mentions he saw action in New Guinea, and that he was an infantryman.
  • Incorporated. - G
• This (and apparently two more videos) includes an interview with Nelson, which may provide insight. We are allowed to use primary sources for content, so long as it's limited to statements of fact (see WP:PRIMARY)
• I'm not seeing any discussion of his style as an architect, which is a large omission for someone involved in a creative field. I see some discussion in the obits, which could provide the basis for discussion.Crisco 1492 mobile (talk) 15:14, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Incorporated this. - G

Source review

• Earwig finds a low probability of copyvio.
• The sources used appear reliable; spotchecking supports content.

Conclusion

•  On hold - Overall, this looks fairly good. I do feel like the failure to explore his style is a big hurdle, however, especially since several sources mentioned the importance of art in Nelsen's work. Crisco 1492 mobile (talk) 15:19, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • @Crisco 1492: Added and fixed some stuff! Thank you so much for your suggestions. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 20:19, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
    • Awesome. I've gone through and made a few tweaks, but I'm happy to say that this meets the GA criteria. Congrats! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.