Talk:Immortals (2011 film)

Bias?

I skimmed this article briefly, and it seems that parts have been written in the style of a favorable review, particularly in the production section. If the writer makes any judgments whatsoever as to article content, the article cannot boast objectivity; just the facts, please. Does someone have time to give this article a look?

Otherwise, the parts that I read were informative and well-written.

Thanks, --Jp07 (talk) 09:04, 24 June 2011 (UTC).

I removed the POV tags, please be specific when presenting claims of bias.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:45, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

"Advanced techniques of cinematography experts." "Theseus is a well-known figure in mythology." "Among the great conquests of this film." The content and diction reflect positively upon the movie's production and story and thus are biased in favor of the movie; these excerpts are also vague and unsupported. I would have appreciated direct contact before you removed the tag.--Jp07 (talk) 04:12, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough. Also upon further review of the sources, the article makes many unverified claims. I have tagged them accordingly.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 13:07, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Does "mixed to positive" really tally with a 33% Rotten Tomatoes rating? --Auqakuh (talk) 22:54, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Copyright violations

The plot summary in this revision is a copyright violation and completely unacceptable to use in the article. It is illegal to use the synopsis from Universal Pictures verbatim. I've rewritten the summary to avoid this being a blatant copyright infringement, but if the illegal material is restored it should be reverted on sight. Melicans (talk, contributions) 19:00, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the helping hand! I will watchlist this article and make sure that there is not further copyright infringement. Erik (talk | contribs) 19:44, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Theseus in the film not the son of Poseidon?

Henry Cavill claimed that Theseus isn't a demi-god on IGN's comic con interview. So while he clearly is in Greek mythology does this mean that in this film he isn't (partly) the son of Poseidon? If so this article needs to be updated to reflect that. Seos (talk) 15:25, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps they didn't want it to, or could not make it resemble Percy Jackson's Poseidon-ique origins. In any case, how can we be sure his mother told them the truth about being raped? How can we be sure she didn't lie in order to protect Poseidon breaking his oath to not interfere? Poseidon was the first to intervene to the protagonist's aid.79.112.119.69 (talk) 11:17, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Basically this movie has the absolute bare minimum in common with Greek mythology - like Athena's decision to not wear Aegis or carry a spear instead (preferring what I think are Japanese kama and martial arts), Zeus never once throwing a lightning bolt at anyone, this hilarious "no interfering with humanity law" thing (name one thing the Greek gods did more often than interfere with humans), the Minotaur is an ordinary human with a bull-head barbed wire hat (okay, technically they call him "The Beast" not "Minotaur"), Tartarus is a mountain, the Great Wall of Greece, etc. Atypicaloracle (talk) 12:52, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Plot summary

Is it just me or is the plot summary dripping with POV?

"In fact the Gods fighting ability is comparable to that of the Spartan's in 300 while the Titans are portayed as far less skilled like the Persian fighters from 300. This seems inconsistent with the storyline at the beginning which seemed to imply that the Gods and Titans were of somewhat equal fighting skills. Another strange thing is that the Gods kill nearly 16 Titans in the first 30 seconds of fighting when it appeared that the cage held only 25 Titans. Even after killing 16 Titans there appears to be way more than 9 Titans left."

It almost reads like a review of what happened in the movie, and I'd remove it but I'm a little too much of a wikinoob to do that without consultation. --Jono nz (talk) 10:17, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

I removed the opinion piece, and tagged the plot. At 1300 words it's over double the guideline of 400-700 words. Edgepedia (talk) 10:50, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Anachronisms?

I was tired and did not see the whole movie but I noticed three things. There was an oily sea with some dumped sailors coated black, as if they got caught in a crude oil spill. The bull that people were cruelly heated in looked a lot like the Merrill Lynch bull, and it appeared that the filmmakers wanted to draw attention to this by panning its horns and head into the picture when it first appeared. In the opening scene the Titans are biting painted rebar, but I believe the oldest known sample of concrete dates only to Ancient Rome, and ferroconcrete probably came along much later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barnsward (talk • contribs) 14:25, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Well played. I appreciate your commentary.

Peace and Passion ☮  ("I'm listening....") 23:18, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Ares; murdered?

There seems to be a debate about whether or not Zeus' killing of Ares for disobedience could be classed as murder or execution. I mean, if you killed someone on purpose, it would technically be classed as murder, right? I thoroughly believe it was murder and the other gods should have rebeled against Zeus for the murder of Ares. The funny thing is, Posiedon wasn't punished for causing the tidal wave earlier on.Visokor (talk) 17:57, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

"A lot of the gods of Olympus appear to be dying all of a sudden. Maybe if we had the god of war with us... or the entire rest of the pantheon who appear to be missing... this might go a little more smoothly. Gj, Zeus. Oh wait there are hundreds of gods and titans in the final battle vision. Weird." I think that Poseidon wasn't punished because he didn't get caught - basically, Zeus wasn't paying attention and the other gods said they'd stand up for him if he were caught. Of course, this didn't stop Athena from falling helplessly to her knees and watching Zeus blast Ares through a wall with a magic fire whip (well known in Greek mythology as Zeus' weapon of choice). Atypicaloracle (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:44, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Reverts

The Plot description I found here was distorted, opaque and puzzling, not the story-line of the film, so I clarified some and corrected some. Darkwarriorblake then reverted it back to distorted, opaque and puzzling (which invites edit improvement, if you care about a reasonably accurate précis), but I'm aware that this is not great film-making, so I won't argue. Watch the film instead, and poke holes in this article's "Plot" copy for fun. --Espresso-con-pana (talk) 02:54, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Plato's Symposium

Hyperion representing the lower stages in eroticism, the fleshly immortality, and Theseus the highest stage, the one who will bring forth children higher than mere human children? 77.175.64.145 (talk) 21:50, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Production section needs to be expanded

The film's production section is underdeveloped and needs to have more information added to it.--Paleface Jack (talk) 03:52, 30 November 2014 (UTC)