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editA QUESTION ABOUT MAHATAMA GANDHI Gandhi was born in India. Why is he listed as a Notable South African? did he acquire citizenship from there or what?
Ahmed Deedat needs a change
editHe wasn't a Muslim priest. (Strictly speaking there is no such thing) He wasn't even a Islamic scholar. He was a Muslim who studied the Bible, and Christianity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.222.6.200 (talk) 14:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Actually he was a mullah, a selected person in a mosque to study religion and call persons to prayer or religious service on Friday service or the Muslim holy days. Islam doesn't have priests not reserved for certain people and doesn't have monasteries either, but has Islamic religious schools and everyone is eligible to be mullahs with the right knowledge to perform any level of religious service. + 71.102.53.48 (talk) 00:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC),this sounds perfectly true but who can confirm any fact about dead people? I think no one can.
uncited claims of ethnicity
editHi, I removed these ,they are uncited WP:RS and I checked a couple and the details were not supported they were not cited also in their articles, so I post them here for citing and replacing. thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 20:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Frene Ginwala – the first Speaker of the democratic post-apartheid National Assembly of the Parliament of the Republic of South Africa.
- Haroon Lorgat – Chief Executive of the International Cricket Council.
- Pravin Gordhan – South African Minister of Finance
- Ebrahim Patel – South African Minister of Economic Development
- Fatima Meer – a South African writer, academic and screenwriter, known for her anti-apartheid activism.
- Ahmed Kathrada – Nelson Mandela's fellow inmate at Robben Island and close confidante. Kathrada was one of the Rivonia Trial defendants.
- Ahmed Deedat – Famous Muslim apologist on comparative religion
- Mac Maharaj – Nelson Mandela's fellow inmate at Robben Island, member of South African Communist Party, minister of transport in the first post-apartheid South African government.
- Hashim Amla – first player of Indian descent to play Test Cricket for South Africa.
- Navanethem Pillay – United Nations' human rights commissioner.
- Schabir Shaik – former financial adviser to Jacob Zuma
- Ismail Mahomed – a South African lawyer who served as the Chief Justice of the Constitutional Court of South Africa and the Supreme Court of Namibia, and co-authored the constitution of Namibia.
- Tatum Keshwar – Miss South Africa 2008
- Trisha Chetty – Woman South African Cricketer of Indian origin .She is a wicket keeper batsman.
- Kerishnie Naicker - Miss South Africa 1997.
- [(Buddy Govender)] - Footballer, Karate-ka and Grey Street Casbah Historian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.11.233.80 (talk) 10:40, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- Ela Gandhi - decendent of MK Gandhi-granddaughter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.224.207.98 (talk) 08:09, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Politics
editWhat exactly do Indian South Africans vote for?? You don't seem to believe it's former "white" parties. Let me show you an example:
- KwaDukuza municipality
- Ethnic breakdown is: 73% Black, 21% Indian (Asian), 5% White and 1% other.
- 2004 elections: ANC+IFP combined 80%, DA 14%, Minority Front 1%, etc. I can understand that some Indians vote ANC, but the majority? 5% of KwaDukuza is white, yet 14% of the votes are to the DA? lets take another example:
- uMgeni municipality
- Ethnic: 74% Black, 19% white, 5% asian
- 2004 elections: ANC+IFP+ACDP 74%, DA 21%, NNP 1%
- uMdoni municipality
- Ethnic: 69% Black, 10% white, 20% asian
- 2004 elections: ANC+IFP+ACDP 72%, DA 16%, Minority front 8%, NNP 1%
- eThekwini municipality
- Ethnic: 68% Black, 8% white, 19% asian, 2.8%
- 2009 elections: ANC+IFP+COPE+ACDP 77.6%, DA 18%, Minority front 2.5%
- As you can see in this RECENT election, how can the DA receive 18% of the votes when only 8% of the municip is white?
- Bezuidenhout (talk) 13:11, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Indian history
editI have started expanding this section, however there is an enormous amount that can be done.
Examples of additional information that can be added:
- Gandhi and the formation of Indian civil rights groups and its effects in uniting passenger and formerly indentured Indians
- Immigration restrictions
- Indian influence on Islam in South Africa. Islam in South Africa has been shaped by various rivalries between Indian ethnic groups (Grey Street and West Street Mosques), and there are also differences between Cape Muslim culture and that of the rest in South Africa.
- Hinduism in South Africa
- Christianity amongst Indians (conversions).
- Indian townships and "slums" (Magazine Barracks, Fietas, etc).
- Indian relationships with other population groups. Durban Riot, etc
I would also appreciate assistance in cleaning up refs, etc to links that I have added. Park3r (talk) 11:52, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Post-apartheid Indian history
editThe history section of the article talks about SA Indians today in the context of their politics, but there is a lot that can be written about their post-apartheid economic advancement and their movement into formerly white areas. There may also be source material on the movement of Indians from KwaZulu-Natal to places like Midrand in search of economic opportunity (something like this). If such material exists, it would broaden the scope of the article.Park3r (talk) 18:31, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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Remark
editIts kinda sad this unsupported hoax was included in this article for about 5 years. - LouisAragon (talk) 18:01, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
Prominent Indian list appears incomplete
editHi
I did not see the name of Ela Ramgobin Gandhi in the list of prominent South African Indian list !!!
It is puzzling
How to add her name?
Thanks & Regards Sitesh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.101.96.15 (talk) 14:27, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Ela Gandhi is working for some university in south africa as chancellor as i m informed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.224.207.98 (talk) 08:03, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
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Indian/Asian population distribution map
editThis file is completely useless. The chloropleth map should only include values within the actual range of Indians per region! Coloring every single territory the same makes no sense and tells us absolutely nothing besides the fact that there is at least one Indian living in each of the areas, and none of the regions are a hundred percent Asian. SpiralSource (talk) 18:36, 22 May 2022 (UTC)