Talk:Intersex healthcare

Have any input?

Hello. It seems you have found my humble new article. If you find anything you think needs correcting (unreliable source, incorrect formatting, etc.) please either correct it or leave a comment here so I can fix it. Specificity is appreciated.

Thanks :) Urchincrawler (talk) 00:19, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Nice article, I added some links and minor copyediting for readability. Raladic (talk) 01:39, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

@Raladic I saw the link changed you made (the change for hormone therapy was especially appreciated I forgot that one goes to menopause). Thanks for contributing. Urchincrawler (talk) 04:05, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

@Urchincrawler Hi I saw your earlier comment about some points you wanted to expand on in this article. While I don't really have the time to add content right now I did find some studies that might intrest you!

• Furtado, Paulo Sampaio; Moraes, Felipe; Lago, Renata; Barros, Luciana Oliveira; Toralles, Maria Betânia; Barroso, Ubirajara (2012-10-09). "Gender dysphoria associated with disorders of sex development". Nature Reviews Urology. 9 (11). Springer Science and Business Media LLC: 620–627. doi:10.1038/nrurol.2012.182. ISSN 1759-4812. Talks about gender dysphoria in the context of different disorders.
• Beale, Jennifer M.; Creighton, Sarah M. (2016). "Long-term health issues related to disorders or differences in sex development/intersex". Maturitas. 94: 143–148. doi:10.1016/j.maturitas.2016.10.003. ISSN 0378-5122. Talks about more of the long term effects.
• Thyen, Ute; Lux, Anke; Jürgensen, Martina; Hiort, Olaf; Köhler, Birgit (2014-07-17). "Utilization of Health Care Services and Satisfaction with Care in Adults Affected by Disorders of Sex Development (DSD)". Journal of General Internal Medicine. 29 (S3): 752–759. doi:10.1007/s11606-014-2917-7. ISSN 0884-8734. PMC 4124114. PMID 25029980. Talks about patient satisfaction and issues with healthcare (I think this study is super important as it found that half the participants scored below the cut-off indicating low quality of care.)
• Rapp, Marion; Mueller-Godeffroy, Esther; Lee, Peter; Roehle, Robert; Kreukels, Baudewijntje P. C.; Köhler, Birgit; Nordenström, Anna; Bouvattier, Claire; Thyen, Ute (2018-04-03). "Multicentre cross-sectional clinical evaluation study about quality of life in adults with disorders/differences of sex development (DSD) compared to country specific reference populations (dsd-LIFE)". Health and Quality of Life Outcomes. 16 (1). doi:10.1186/s12955-018-0881-3. ISSN 1477-7525. PMC 5883311. PMID 29615040. Found that QOL was significantly poorer compared to healthy and non-healthy reference populations in social relationships. Based off my brief scan of the article you didn't discuss social relationships so this might be important to add.

CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 03:55, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

@CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath Thanks for the sources ^_^. I ran into the article in Maturitas quite a bit while working on this article, but unfortunately I've been unable to find a place where I can access it for free. I'll definitely look through the rest though when I get the chance. Feel free to add to the article if you'd like when you get the time. There's no rush. :) Urchincrawler (talk) 04:02, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

That one is available through the Wikipedia library. I just searched for it and got access to the full article through it - Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library in case you didn’t know yet. Raladic (talk) 04:30, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

I actually didn't know about the Wikipedia library. Thanks for the tip. Urchincrawler (talk) 01:39, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm not allowed to link the website here but there is a site called sci-hub (ends in .ru) that allows you to copy and paste a doi into the site and most of the time it will give you access to the article for free. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 04:41, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Move to Intersex health care?

Hi, it appears most other articles we have on Health care or Transgender health care use "health care" as two separate words, should we move this one to fix that pattern as well? Raladic (talk) 00:35, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

I don't think it really matters. After all, articles like Healthcare and the LGBT community and Healthcare in the United States don't use a space between health and care. Urchincrawler (talk) 03:53, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Yeah I guess that’s fair. I’ll make the other title redirect to this one then, just in case someone searched using the space :) Raladic (talk) 04:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Sounds good 👍 Urchincrawler (talk) 05:00, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Should there be a redirect from "intersex health" to intersex healthcare the way "LGBT health" goes to healthcare and LGBT? Or would that be confusing due to the intersex medical interventions page? Urchincrawler (talk) 05:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes that’s a good idea as well - created Intersex health to redirect here as well.

This page here links to the Intersex medical intervention page, so I think it will be fine.

if confusion arises in the future, we can always add a disambiguation or other HAT note to the top of the article here. Raladic (talk) 05:43, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

I suggest renaming the other page to remove the space instead. Jruderman (talk) 18:38, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

To do list for this article

There are some topics that I think would fit in this article well. Hopefully either future me or another helpful editor will fill these in.

1. Expand advocacy section. Note: I would really appreciate another editor's help with this since that section is giving me difficulty.
2. (Complete, but can be further expanded.) Added gender dysphoria to mental health as intersex people are more likely to experience gender dysphoria than general population. Here's a starting source I found.
3. (Complete, but could be expanded) Look into hypertension, diabetes, and obesity as some intersex people can experience a higher likelihood of developing these conditions.
4. If possible, expand on treatments for associated congenital anomalies such as renal and heart defects. (Congenital anomalies is currently the last paragraph of the physical health section.)
5. Expand on cancer risks (second to last paragraph of physical health) if possible.

Urchincrawler (talk) 03:44, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Page organization

Should the healthcare needs subsections each be made into their own section or be left as is? Urchincrawler (talk) 23:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

I think it's fine to leave them as subsections. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 04:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)