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Churchill's geographical description

The whole paragraph beginning "Churchill's geographical description of the Iron Curtain was ambiguous..." is totally unsourced (what looks like a citation is only a footnote in the same vein), and seems to be just the musings of a Wikipedia editor. It may or may not be apt, but in either case it is original research and should be removed. 2001:BB6:4703:4A58:68CC:4F8B:F0B1:F48F (talk) 11:58, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Hmains, it is not cool to ignore a discussion on the talk page and then simply revert the resulting edit. Can you tell us who gave the critique of Churchill's geographical description described in that paragraph, i.e. cite a reliable published source. If not, then it is only the personal musings of an individual Wikipedia editor and should be removed per WP:NOR. 2001:BB6:4703:4A58:9C5A:A160:1CD2:A625 (talk) 11:28, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

• if you open a discussion, then the matter of changing the article must wait until consensus is obtained. Asking for citations is also a first step before deleting text--as I have now done. Hmains (talk) 02:41, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Consensus was obtained. The discussion was open for four days and nobody disagreed. Oh, and I also tagged the paragraph. I then carried out the consensus, with an edit summary linking to the discussion. Do it your way by all means, but leave off the blame game. 2001:BB6:4703:4A58:8975:F568:3DE1:5CBB (talk) 08:24, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Hmains, you have not come back to finish what you started, so I am now going to delete the paragraph. Please do not revert me again. Proper procedures have been followed (twice). 2001:BB6:4703:4A58:2846:21:D8C3:92E7 (talk) 08:41, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Biased / propagandistic language

Not that I have any desire to defend the former regimes of the Soviet bloc, but you can hardly claim that "...had the function of calling all European peoples still under the yoke of the national-communist regimes to freedom" is neutral language. Describing one form of government as a "yoke" and another as "freedom" is not the kind of language that belongs in an encyclopedia. 82.28.107.46 (talk) 19:55, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Image

I think the image on the top should be changed into a time-lapse. First the image that depicts the curtain as orginally envisioned by Churchill (to Italy), then with the Tito-Stalin split, which gradually opens the borders, then Albania withdraws from the Warsaw Pact and utimately the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the opening of the border. Maybe there should be some more steps in between that I'm missing, but you'll get the point. PhotographyEdits (talk) 14:37, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Origin of the term

Th German wiki locates the origin of the term to France in 1915 (so not Russia in 1918). Translation https://de.zxc.wiki/wiki/Eiserner_Vorhang 2A02:8109:1040:29B0:2664:6003:9DFB:CB9E (talk) 18:11, 11 March 2024 (UTC)