Talk:Isabel Perón

Naming and coup

Two things:

• Her official name was "María Estela Martínez de Perón", not Isabel.

Yes, that's right, but it is common in Wikipedia to name person articles by the most familiar name, rather than by the technically true one. --Darmol June 21, 2006

• The coup that deposed Isabel was not altogether bloodless. The atmosphere of violence in Argentina was pretty well established, and the Junta proceeded to kill and "disappear" thousands in the months ahead.

The coup in itself was bloodless. Compare with the Chilean coup against Allende. The government house was bombed, Allende committed suicide and several of his followers were executed on the coup day. The deaths that followed afterwards the Argentine coup were a result of the nature of the regime, not the nature of the coup. --Darmol June 21, 2006

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Juan Peron met for the first time with "Isabelita" during his exile in Panama, not Paraguay. Paraguay was the first country in the list; then, Panama, Nicaragua, and finally Spain.

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Can someone provide the date of their first meeting? Also, is it really true that Peron was barred from having a church wedding for being a double widower? I thought the Catholic Church only barred divorced persons with living spouses from remarrying in the church.--Chris 23:09, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

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Perhaps info concerning Isabela's current activities should be added?

world's first female president?

Was she really the world's first female president? In Sri Lanka Bandaranaike's widow, Sirimavo Bandaranaike, lead the SLFP to power and become in 1960 the world's first elected female head of government. --62.6.139.10 12:31, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes. Mrs B was only the PM -- ie, head of government, not head of state. So, Isabel Perón was the world's first woman president (not the first female head of state, of course, because of centuries of crowned heads), but only by default, rising up from the VP's job. The world's first democratically elected female head of state was Vigdís Finnbogadóttir in 1980. I think that's how it goes. –Hajor 14:34, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Khertek Anchimaa-Toka of the People's Republic of Tuva was the first female head of state of a republic, and also the first female head of government. 80.216.187.136 (talk) 20:52, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Had this been in Europe, someone else would be the Head of Government due to being a Prime Minister. In the United States, the President is effectively the Head of Government, as well as being the Head og State. It's just about the same in Argentina: Head of State and Head of Government. If not, who was the Prime Minister? --Stat-ist-ikk (talk) 08:46, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

• You'd think Isabel would be more famous than she is because of this fact. It seems pretty significant. I recall reading a while back that some man was working on making a musical of her life, but I haven't heard anything about it since. -- Andrew Parodi 08:43, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

I sincerely hope nobody does a musical honoring her, she was arguably one of the worst presidents of our history, her term prompting the military to replace her and establish the Proceso de Reorganización Nacional and the Dirty War

I agree. She was not a good president and she should've never run. And there's hardly anything about her that seems remotely interesting enough to be made into a musical. However, that hasn't stopped this guy:

http://www.orlok.com/cmbio.html

And he made this guide about her:

http://www.amazon.com/Isabel-Forgotten-Peron-President-1974-1976/lm/NIFG3MBS752E

Andrew Parodi 12:14, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

• "first female .. head of government"? She was beaten to that by Golda Meir, Israel, 1969. Maproom (talk) 13:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Profession

Is it necessary or appropriate to list her profession as "dancer"? She is famous for being a policitian (or wife of one) not a dancer. Perhaps, if people want to mention her as a dancer, it should be inserted as "former profession". Ronald Reagan's profession is not listed as "actor".... I propose a change to list "politician" as her profession. --Siofra 21 June 2006

Well, the "profession" field -I was the one who added it in the box- refers to the profession previous to involvement in politics. In the presidents who had a degree, profession can be "Lawyer", "Engineer", "Physician", etc., but in the presidents who did not study a career, the profession is the job the person was known for before pursuing a political career. --Darmol June 21, 2006

If you look at the Ronald Reagan article, his profession is not listed at all. Nor is Margaret Thatcher's (or Harold Wilson's, or a great number of politicians that I've done a quick scan on). I do not believe that it's appropriate to list her profession in the main box as "dancer". If you feel there is a need to mention it (and perhaps there is a need), then I think it's best put into the body of the article. --Siofra 22 Aug 2006

I agree, it is silly for the profession status to be there. If it remains then be impartial and put it for Reagan there and Vaclev Havel who was a writer.

I agree that it is not appropriate for this article unless it is commonly done on all politicians' articles.--Gloriamarie 22:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Current Status?

Does anyone know how she is doing right now? Any activities or anything? Might be significant to put into this page. Arbiteroftruth 06:24, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

   she is accused of involvement in some crimes commited by the triple A during the 70's, and is under judgement in Spain  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.139.95.13 (talk) 20:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC) 

Dirty war was before Videla's government

The so called Argentina's dirty war began before Jorge Rafael Videla's government.To example, the Brazilian pianist Francisco Tenório Cerqueira Júnior missed under the rule of this useless woman.Agre22 (talk) 01:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)agre22

The Rodrigazo

The article writes:"Faced with record trade and budget deficits, though with an otherwise stable economy, the new Economy Minister, Celestino Rodrigo proceeded to apply "shock therapy," ordering a surprise halving of the peso's value and, by forcing those who could to stampede towards the U.S. dollar, destroying the fragile financial balance that had been maintained to that point".

Well, these terrible and useless decisions were and are called Rodrigazo since when they were decided, in 1975.Agre22 (talk) 13:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC)agre22

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Excelentisima

I am in favour of removing Excelentísima Señora from the infobox. The only other presidents of Argentina who have the title The Most Excellent in their infobox are President Alberto Fernández and Vice President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner. Векочел (talk) 05:38, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

After the death on Menem, only former Argentinian President?

I mean, this was partially true during Christina Rodriguez de Kirchner presidency, but not any more. And partially because Argentina had many presidents during its crisis of the early 2000s 2600:1700:4ED2:60:1D23:26D7:1506:8424 (talk) 01:08, 7 November 2023 (UTC)