Talk:Ivanhoe (1952 film)

Disambiguation required

This entry clearly needs a disambiguation reference to the Walter Scott novel, from which it is derived. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.167.19.166 (talk) 11:53, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

As the novel goes under the article title Ivanhoe, while this article has the title Ivanhoe (1952 film), and as there in addition are links to Scott's novel both in the first paragraph and in the infobox, adding a disambiguation link to the novel at the top of the article would literally be "over the top". Anyone who searches for "Ivanhoe" will come to the novel, not to this article. Thomas Blomberg (talk) 16:13, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Looks like a remake

Wow, to judge from the plot description, this seems like almost a scene-for-scene remake of The Adventures of Robin Hood with Errol Flynn, aside from the sequence in which Ivanhoe rescues Richard the Lionhearted. Ivanhoe even has the lead from that one's sister in this one, albeit not in the same role from what I can tell. Was the 1939 movie essentially (and ironically) based on Scott's novel? Cinerama Comment (talk) 00:19, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

The 1938 Errol Flynn/WB film was influenced by Scott's novel only to the extent that it set the action in the period of Richard the Lionheart and John. Most modern versions of the Robin Hood legend have followed Scott's example. However, the 1952 "Ivanhoe" did borrow the theme of collecting a ransom for King Richard from "The Adventures of Robin Hood". That does not happen in Scott's novel. Disney's "Story of Robin Hood" (1952) also borrows the same theme from the 1938 film. O Murr (talk) 06:45, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Not even close. There's no joust scene, no two-women romantic entanglement, no trial by combat, no Jews, no storming of the castle, in fact most of the major plot elements of Ivanhoe in Robin Hood, while Ivanhoe has no recruiting of Merry Men, no meeting between Robin and Richard. etc. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:19, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

I agree. But the screenplay of "The Adventures of Robin Hood" did open with a joust between Sir Robin of Locksley (Flynn) and Sir Guy of Gisbourne (Rathbone), apparently inspired by the 1922 Fairbanks "Robin Hood". For various reasons that was never shot. A major dispute over this sequence seems to have been one of several reasons why the original director William Keighley - who shot over half of the film - was taken off the production and replaced by Michael Curtis. O Murr (talk) 22:17, 9 November 2018 (UTC)