Talk:J. Nash McCrea

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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk18:28, 11 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:18, 2 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/J. Nash McCrea; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  
  • Interesting:  
  • Other problems:   - Could be improved
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Article is long enough, 5x expanded as required, no apparent copyright or plagiarism, QPQ complete. BeanieFan11, please expand reference 6. Bare URLs are not allowed for DYK, and this is close to that. Hook is technically short enough but a bit too detailed IMO and could be improved. Some suggestions below. Airborne84 (talk) 01:56, 8 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

  • ALT1: ... that cyclist J. Nash McCrea, nicknamed "Crash," caused a major crash at the Olympics?
  • ALT2: ... that cyclist J. Nash McCrea who caused a major crash at the 1904 Olympics was nicknamed "Crash"?
@Airborne84: Ref six is not a bare url, it says '"1904 Summer Olympics - 5 miles, men". Olympedia.' – I don't think it could be expanded further. As for the hooks, I think ALT1 is alright, not as big a fan of ALT2. What about these:
ALT3: ... that when cyclist J. Nash McCrea, nicknamed "Crash," competed at the Olympics, he caused a crash that took out eight competitors?
ALT4: ... that when cyclist J. Nash McCrea, nicknamed "Crash," competed at the Olympics, he caused a major crash?
BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:01, 8 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Or another option, we could make the hook silly for April Fools day:
ALT5: ... that a major cycling crash at the Olympics was caused by Crash?
ALT6: ... that Crash caused a major Olympic cycling crash?
BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:03, 8 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
 Thanks BeanieFan11. I expanded that reference slightly. If anything looks inaccurate, feel free to revert. The other edit I made was a mistake, but I was interrupted and you reverted before I could. ALT3 isn't bad, I just think it's implied he competed at the Olympics. If someone wants to know if he did, the hook just pulled them in. No issues with ALT 5 or 6, although I have no knowledge of the queue for April Fools Day. I leave the hook to the promoter. I prefer ALT1. ALT3 also works. If we are looking for material for April Fools Day, ALT5 and ALT6 are fine as well. Thanks!Airborne84 (talk) 01:26, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
@BeanieFan11 and Airborne84: I am promoting ALT1 to a quirky slot, but I thought this hook ALT1a may be more interesting? I only added the cyclist age and the year 1904? Let me know what you think, and if you think the extras are not needed we can stay with the promoted hook.
Bruxton, I like ALT1a. Thanks!Airborne84 (talk) 19:25, 11 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, will see what @Cielquiparle: since I have already promoted ALT1 and the hook would only need a bit of tweaking. Bruxton (talk) 19:59, 11 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
  ALT1a looks good. Think it's actually quite important to say it's the 1904 Olympics, because anyone who follows Olympic history knows that that is the "outlier" Olympics in St. Louis that was held under unusual circumstances. Anyway it would make me more likely to click. Cielquiparle (talk) 20:14, 11 March 2023 (UTC)Reply


GA Review

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This review is transcluded from Talk:J. Nash McCrea/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: BeanieFan11 (talk · contribs) 02:29, 26 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer: WikiOriginal-9 (talk · contribs) 17:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):   b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section):   b (citations to reliable sources):   c (OR):   d (copyvio and plagiarism):  
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):   b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:  
  • Full name in body with ref.
    • Done.
  • Remove refs feom lead.
    • Done.
  • Change United States in the infobox to U.S.
    • Done.
  • "He stopped racing until 1903, but then began winning many half-mile and one-mile tournaments, won the Central Illinois championship,[3] and was selected as the central Illinois representative for the United States cycling team, which was to compete at the 1904 Summer Olympics in St. Louis, Missouri.[1][3]" change to "He stopped racing until 1903, but then began winning many half-mile and one-mile tournaments. He won the Central Illinois championship,[3] and was selected as the central Illinois representative for the United States cycling team, which was to compete at the 1904 Summer Olympics in St. Louis, Missouri.[1][3]"
    • Done.
  • "By 1908" comma after 1908.
    • Done.
  • Where is The Herald located?
  • Where is The Capitol located?
    • I couldn't find either locations – the names are really common which makes it difficult...
  • "McCrea led the Milwaukee Newspaper guild strike in 1936" Any details on what the strike was about or if it was successful?
    • Found an article on the results and added a bit.
  • "With the newspapers he worked for, he served as sportswriter, real estate editor, automotive editor, and a copy editor" He didn't have all those roles at each paper I presume?
    • Correct – reworded.
  • Body doesn't say where he died?
    • Added.
  • Could you find a picture of him?
    • I couldn't find one.
  • Added cat: Radio personalities from Illinois

I think that's everything. This article is a little short but you've probably scrounged up everything there is to find about this cyclist from 1904 (you usually do). Nice research! ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

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