Talk:James White (inventor)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Launchballer talk 18:12, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that Napoleon awarded a medal to English inventor James White?

• Source: Dickinson, H.W. (1951). "James White and his "New Century of Inventions"". Transactions of the Newcomen Society. 27 (1). doi:10.1179/tns.1949.016. p. 176

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Andrena astragali

Created by Generalissima (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 44 past nominations.

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Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 20:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC).

• I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:44, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. AGF on the offline hook source. @Generalissima: The only thing is that I think there needs to be a direct cite for the sentence For this invention, White received a medal from First Consul Napoleon Bonaparte. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:48, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

• @BeanieFan11: Oops! fixed. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:51, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
  • BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:53, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

@Generalissima and BeanieFan11: There's a chunk of WP:WHITESPACE between the multi-image and the gallery, could something be done about this?--Launchballer 17:56, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@Launchballer: That is intentional, I added a clear template to prevent sandwiching issues on wider monitors. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:08, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Possible spelling and grammar errors

Hello Generalissima, I saw that the nominated this article for GA status. I'm currently experimenting with a script to automatically detect spelling and grammar errors, I hope you don't mind being my guinea pig. Feedback and improvement suggestions are welcome. I saw at least one of the detected errors is in a quote so you would have to check whether the error is already in the original text.

Detected possible errors:

• Sentence: His interests in mechanics begun at a young age; he claimed to have invented a mousetrap around age eight, and that he "became a tolerable workman in all the mechanical branches long before the age at boys are apprenticed to any."
  • Correction: replace "begun" with "began"
  • Explanation: incorrect verb form

• Sentence: His interests in mechanics begun at a young age; he claimed to have invented a mousetrap around age eight, and that he "became a tolerable workman in all the mechanical branches long before the age at boys are apprenticed to any."
  • Correction: replace "at" with "that"
  • Explanation: incorrect word usage

• Sentence: ...by over an decade.
  • Correction: replace "an" with "a"
  • Explanation: "Decade" starts with a consonant sound, so "a" should be used instead of "an".

Phlsph7 (talk) 15:41, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much Phlsph7, I love being the guinea pig for stuff like this. And fixing errors in quotes is allowed by MoS unless it changes the meaning, so I fixed it all up. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:13, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

I had hoped you would say that so I have an excuse for using your other GA nominations as further test subjects. :)

I'll post the results on your talk page so we have the discussion in one place. Phlsph7 (talk) 09:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Nominator: Generalissima (talk · contribs) 02:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Sohom Datta (talk · contribs) 14:52, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

This has been around in the backlog long enough, I'll take a stab at this. Sohom (talk) 14:52, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Review

• 600 subscribers -- I don't think subscribers is the right term here.
  • Source uses it but yeah it doesn't seem right. Used customers instead. -G
• although it is unknown if White was aware of its separate invention by clockmakers, first attested by Joseph Williamson c. 1720. -- This is a bit hard to parse, what does first attested by mean in the context?
  • Good point, rephrased a bit. - G
• bolstered by cross-Channel transmission -- cross-channel?
  • Capitalisation is correct when referring specifically to the English Channel. - G
• possibly indicating his acquaintanceship -- Why possibly?
  • Source sorta hedges its bets without fully committing. I think this is because he never actually mentioned the Earl Stanhope until later in life. - G
• possibly indicating that his parents were Nonconformists. -- Is this backed up by the source, feels like a bit of a stretch to assume this?
  • The source makes this claim directly; "No record [of his birth] is found in the Church Baptismal Record there. His parents may have been Nonconformists." - G
• It would be usefull to put the things he invented into context with one line explaining what they were. While I do have a background in engineering (CS based tho lol) out-flow radial turbine and single and double helical gears are not things I can immediately conjur up mental pictures for and it takes me a while to parse/figure out what they are.
  • I admit I wasn't absolutely sure what some of these are; but I tried my best to elaborate lol. - G
• Sources check out
  • @Sohom Datta: Sorry it took a while! Does this look good? Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 04:01, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

  Looks good to me, this is good to go! Sohom (talk) 14:21, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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