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Highly biased

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Latest comment: 12 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

The article is highly biased and isn't worth the standards of wikipedia in terms of neutrality. Someone needs to write the article in a non partisan so that it doesn't sound like a mouthpiece of India against corruption group.

I absolutely agree. Added a NPOV-check tag. Somebody/bot check this out and clean this article up. Cheerio! Budugoo (talk) 16:38, 21 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Looks good to me. Yes, it needs some copyediting (I've left a tag to that effect). But it seems to describe the bill and the history surrounding its writing and attempted passage seem neutral, it includes a substantial criticism section, and absolute is not a "mouthpiece of the India against corruption group". If anyone has specific concerns (I'm sure there are parts that could be made better), please raise those specifically. But I don't see any broad reaching POV problem requiring that tag. Qwyrxian (talk) 04:28, 22 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
Nope not really. The Anna Hazare version is called the citizens version for example. 122.163.43.69 —Preceding undated comment added 13:31, 3 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Difference Between Govt Bill & Jan Lok Pal

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  • The Govt Bill has changed time to time may be each version of draft should named by date of publishing.
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Feature of Bill Feature under Govt. Bill Criticism of Govt. Bill Feature under Jan Lokpal Bill Criticism of Jan Lokpal Bill
Jurisdiction of the Lok Pal Bill includes ministers, MPs for any action outside Parliament, and Group A officers (and equivalent) of the government. Also Prime Minister after he demits office is included. includes officers of NGOs who receive government funds or any funds from the public. Bill excludes judges, and junior (below Group A) officials. Bill includes ministers, MPs for any action outside Parliament, and Group A officers (and equivalent) of the government. Also sitting Prime Minister is included. includes any act of an MP in respect of a speech or vote in Parliament (which is now protected by Article 105 of the Constitution) includes judges, includes all government officials JLP does not cover NGOs
Composition The government Bill has a chairperson and up to 8 members; at least half the members must have a judicial background. The JLP has a chairperson and 10 members, of which 4 have a judicial background.
Selecting the Lok Pal members The selection will be made by a committee consisting of the Prime Minister, the leaders of Opposition in both Houses of Parliament, a Supreme Court judge, a high court chief justice, an eminent jurist and an eminent person in public life. The selection committee may, at its discretion, appoint a search committee to shortlist candidates. The JLP has a two stage process. A search committee will shortlist potential candidates. The search committee will have 10 members; five of these would have retired as Chief Justice of India, Chief Election Commissioner or Comptroller and Auditor General; they will select the other five from civil society. The Lok Pal chairperson and members will be selected from this shortlist by a selection committee. The selection committee consists of the Prime Minister, the Leader of Opposition in Lok Sabha, two Supreme Court judges, two high court chief justices, the Chief Election Commissioner, the Comptroller and Auditor General and all previous Lok Pal chairpersons.
Qualifications of a member of the Lok Pal requires the judicial member to be a Supreme Court judge or a high court chief justice. For other members, the government Bill requires at least 25 years experience in anti-corruption policy, public administration, vigilance or finance. requires a judicial member to have held judicial office for 10 years or been a high court or Supreme Court advocate for 15 years. The JLP has a lower age limit of 45 years, and disqualifies anyone who has been in government service in the previous two years.
Process for removal of Lok Pal members is different The government Bill permits the president to make a reference to the Supreme Court for an inquiry, followed by removal if the member is found to be biased or corrupt. The reference may be made by the president (a) on his own, (a) on a petition signed by 100 MPs or (c) on a petition by a citizen if the President is then satisfied that it should be referred. The President may also remove any member for insolvency, infirmity of mind or body, or engaging in paid employment. The JLP has a different process. The process starts with a complaint by any person to the Supreme Court. If the court finds misbehaviour, infirmity of mind or body, insolvency or paid employment, it may recommend his removal to the President.
The offences covered by the bills The government Bill deals only with offences under the Prevention of Corruption Act. The JLP, in addition, includes offences by public servants under the Indian Penal Code, victimization of whistleblowers and repeated violation of citizen's charter.
Investigation Wing The government Bill provides for an investigation wing under the Lok Pal. The JLP states that the CBI will be under the Lok Pal while investigating corruption cases.
Prosecution wing the government Bill provides for a prosecution wing of the Lok Pal. the CBI's prosecution wing will conduct this function.
In the government Bill, the Lok Pal may initiate prosecution in a special court. A copy of the report is to be sent to the competent authority. No prior sanction is required. In the JLP, prosecution of the Prime Minister, ministers, MPs and judges of Supreme Court and high courts may be initiated only with the permission of a 7-judge bench of the Lok Pal.
Grievance redressal The government Bill does not deal with grievance redressal. the JLP deals with grievance redressal of citizens, in addition to the process for prosecuting corruption cases. It requires every public authority to publish citizen's charters listing its commitments to citizens.


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This article is a confused bundle of distortions obviously written by some POV pushers.

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This article is a confused bundle of distortions obviously written by some POV pushers. Needs copyedits. 103.30.141.57 (talk) 11:44, 14 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

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