Talk:Japanese battleship Mutsu

What was the namesake of this ship?

The article claims three times that it was the province and once that it was from the Meiji Emperor's given name. The former is sourced to "Silverstone, Paul H. (1984). Directory of the World's Capital Ships. New York: Hippocrene Books. ISBN 0-88254-979-0.", the latter to "Hyde, Harlow A. (1988). Scraps of Paper: The Disarmament Treaties Between the World Wars. Lincoln, Nebraska: Media Publishing. ISBN 0-939644-46-0." These can't both be correct.

The province etymology seems to be borne out by the Japanese orthography. The emperor etymology seems implausible given that according to the same sentence it was built several years after his death. That a warship was named the personal name of a deceased emperor is an extraordinary claim, and I couldn't find anything on either the author or the publisher is an extraordinary enough source for this extraordinary claim, let alone a review in The International History Review that makes me wonder whether the book is even reliable for small off-topic notes such as the etymology of a warship's name (the book is actually about interwar disarmament treaties, a subject quite removed from this article's topic).

I also doubt Hyde, a "budget analyst and military history buff" who likely doesn't read Japanese, knows that the kanji used to write the name of the ship were the same as the province, and both different from the emperor.

I'm removing the latter claim for the time being until a less dubious source can be found that explains the discrepancies.

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 14:47, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

ENGVAR

Per this early revision, the article seems to have been written in British English ("armour"). Was there a reason to change it to American English? --John (talk) 18:55, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

If nobody objects I'll pop it back, per MOS:RETAIN. --John (talk) 20:20, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

I've done that now. --John (talk) 08:15, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

The phrase named after the eponymous province

Isn't it redundant? I suggest omitting eponymous and including the in the wikilink. --Dyspeptic skeptic (talk) 18:58, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Gun sizes

Would it be too much trouble for the experts who put this article together to state the sizes of Mutsu 's guns also in inches? I believe her 410mm/41cm guns are customarily referred to in naval lore as 16-inch guns. Granted, they a little larger than 16-inch, but so what? Sca (talk) 15:39, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Lead picture

Hasn't anyone noticed that the lead picture of this article is the exact same as this picture labeled as the Nagato? So... which one is it? Does this photo show the Mutsu or the Nagato? Cléééston (talk) 18:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

I agree that they're the same picture, but they're labelled differently by the sources. Figuring out which is right would be original research unless we find better attribution by a higher-quality source.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:51, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

torpedo tubes

albeit may be safely inferred from the infobox, an explicit statement of the removal of the last four seems useful. 151.29.59.56 (talk) 22:06, 9 September 2022 (UTC) but a my source (not very reliable) suggests that all 8 were unmounted at the same time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.29.59.56 (talk) 22:18, 9 September 2022 (UTC)