Talk:Jay Kordich

Merger Proposal

I propose Juiceman Juicer be merged into Jay Kordich. The Juiceman Juicer article is a stub and could be fully explained in this article. Onespankman (talk) 13:36, 22 June 2021 (UTC) Onespankman

• Support per nomination. Not enough for its own article as of now. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:49, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
• Support I agree with the merge Psychologist Guy (talk) 11:26, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

It's been almost a year since this discussion was started, if an admin or anyone else wants to carry out the merger, since six months after this discussion started, there have been two votes for a move, and this counts as a consensus to make the change. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:35, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Izno, when you get a chance can you carry out such a move? --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:00, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

You don't need to be an admin to merge two articles. Izno (talk) 16:24, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

The merger is done. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:30, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Incorrect "fraud" category

@User:Lmharding

No reliable references claim that Kordich was a "fraud". In this edit summary [1] you say reference 8 says Kordich was a "fraud" but this is clearly incorrect.

Reference 8 is The Vitamin Pushers published in 1994 when Kordich was still alive. Stephen Barrett did not call Kordich a fraud, he merely stated that Kordich is peddling nonsense and pseudoscience:

Kordich's book is filled with fanciful physiologic tidbits and farfetched claims that juices boost energy and are effective against scores of ailments. His recipes include "Pancreas Rejuvenator" (carrot-apple-lettuce-string bean Brussels sprout juice), "Body Cleanser" (carrot-cucumber-beet juice), "Graying Hair Remedy" (cabbage-spinach-carrot juice), and other concoctions for anemia, anxiety, arthritis, gallstones, impotence, and heart disease. He claims that for the more serious diseases, "the right nutrients may retard or reverse the manifestations of some of these diseases by feeding the immune system and making the body healthier and stronger overall.

On the next page Barrett describes Kordich's notions as "utter nonsense". But nowhere does he call him a fraud. The book Vitamin Pushers is published online in full [2] so you can check this and can also be found on the Quackwatch website [3]. Adding the "American fraudsters" category is not supported by any references. We already have a category for pseudoscientific diet advocates which is clearly accurate here. There is a difference between advocating pseudoscience or nutritional nonsense and being fraud. We need reliable references to add categories, see WP:CATDEF. What you are adding is not supported by any sources and is against Wikipedia policy. Psychologist Guy (talk) 09:58, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

The case itself on page 7 uses the word fraud to describe Jay Kordich. Does that suffice? Lmharding (talk) 04:47, 23 May 2022‎ (UTC)

No it does not suffice. The document you linked [4] is "FINAL JUDGMENT AS TO DEFENDANTS MICHAEL KORDICH AND VENTURE CAPITAL HOLDINGS LLC". Michael Kordich and Venture Capitals Holdings has nothing to do with Jay Kordich, they are not related. It's hard to take you seriously when you are linking to completely irrelevant content and ignoring other sources and lying about them. I take Wikipedia articles I have created seriously. You are just messing about on here. Please stop wasting time with nonsense. If you have reliable sources then great but you do not so please do not suggest incorrect content. Content must be well sourced on biographies and accurate. Psychologist Guy (talk) 17:34, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Redacted, I misread the source. My intention wasn't to waste time. Don't assume bad faith I made a simple mistake.Lmharding (talk) 05:31, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

It should be noted that Lmharding is a blocked sock-puppet who was inserting false content into articles. Psychologist Guy (talk) 15:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)