Talk:Jean-Baptiste Ouédraogo/GA1
Latest comment: 6 years ago by AustralianRupert in topic GA Review
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Reviewer: AustralianRupert (talk · contribs) 02:47, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
I will review this article. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 02:47, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Initial comments/suggestions: G'day, nice work. I have the following observations/suggestions: AustralianRupert (talk) 03:33, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- suggest that the lead could be expanded a little more with maybe another sentence summarising his early life prior to his presidency
- @AustralianRupert: Done.
- suggest removing the second level header called "Biography" as arguably the whole article is a "Biography". I would suggest replacing it with an "Early life" section (level 2 header), with the "Military" and "Later life" sections becoming level 2 headers instead of level 3
- Done.
- is there anything that could be said of the subject's parents or the family he was born into? Were they rich/poor, working class, etc.
- Unfortunately, sources do not specify.
- suggest adding a date, if known, about when he graduated secondary education, or when he commenced tertiary study
- Sources do not specify
- "the School of Naval Medicine": had he joined the military by this time? If so, perhaps clarify this, with potentially a date if known?
- Sources do not specify.
- "In 1982 Ouédraogo was appointed chief medical officer...": had he previously served in the military prior to this (relates to the point above)
- Sources do not specify (welcome to Wikipedia's Africa department *sigh*).
- "against [his] will": whose words are these? As they seem to be an opinion, I'd suggest attributing them in text
- Revised as "due to his senior rank and, in his words, "against my will"."
- citations 13 & 14: remove all caps per MOS:ALLCAPS
- Done.
- in the References, suggest adding English translations for the Janin and Savonnet-Guyot works. The cite book template has the "|trans-title=" parameter which can assist with formatting this
- Added trans titles
- same as above for citations # 4 and 17
- Done.
- there appears to be a mixture of English variation (e.g. "pediatrics" (US) but "Defence" (British). Suggest making this consistent
- Should be all British spellings now.
- per MOS:LANG, suggest using {{lang}} fo non-English words or phrases, e.g. "École primaire catholique de Bam", "Lycée de Philippe-Zinda-Kaboré de Ouagadougou", "Conseil de Salut du Peuple" and "Fédération des associations professionnelles de la santé privée". Suggest also potentially adding a translation for these institutions if possible, which could be added in brackets beside the French term
- Was confused by the lang thing, but I did write translations in footnotes for the French names, which is something I've done at two FAs
- No worries, that works for me. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 00:09, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Was confused by the lang thing, but I did write translations in footnotes for the French names, which is something I've done at two FAs
- "Ouédraogo acted as a mediator between President Blaise Compaoré": suggest maybe clarifying that Compaoré had overthrown Sankara by that time
- Added this background at the end of the "Military and political career" section.
- according to 1983 Upper Voltan coup d'état attempt there was a failed coup against Ouédraogo in Feb 83. I suggest mentioning and linking this in the article, if it can be referenced
- Ah, good catch! I explained this and added new info I found in the new sources. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- Nice work, as always, Indy. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 00:09, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Ah, good catch! I explained this and added new info I found in the new sources. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- Your changes look good, Indy. From what I can tell, the only minor issue remaining is the lack of images. There isn't an absolute requirement for an image, but before I finalise the review, I may have found a few here: [1]. Do you know if any of these might be useable, potentially even under a fair use claim? Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 00:09, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- @AustralianRupert: Unfortunately, it appears all of those are copyrighted (I previously checked, even the Burkina Faso archive photos are probably restricted). And fair use would be unlikely to pass, as per Template:Non-free biog-pic the subject would have to be either deceased or greatly inaccessible, neither of which is true (considering Ouédraogo manages a large clinic and actively mediates national political conflicts that appear in the press, he is not hypothetically difficult to access for people to take photos of him in Burkina Faso). So it seems we'll have to wait until a Wikipedian in West Africa snaps a freely licensed photo of him or when he kicks the bucket, whichever comes first, before we can add an image of him to the article. -Indy beetle (talk) 03:19, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Too easy, let's hope for the first of those (the benevolent West African Wikipedian). Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 03:25, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- @AustralianRupert: Unfortunately, it appears all of those are copyrighted (I previously checked, even the Burkina Faso archive photos are probably restricted). And fair use would be unlikely to pass, as per Template:Non-free biog-pic the subject would have to be either deceased or greatly inaccessible, neither of which is true (considering Ouédraogo manages a large clinic and actively mediates national political conflicts that appear in the press, he is not hypothetically difficult to access for people to take photos of him in Burkina Faso). So it seems we'll have to wait until a Wikipedian in West Africa snaps a freely licensed photo of him or when he kicks the bucket, whichever comes first, before we can add an image of him to the article. -Indy beetle (talk) 03:19, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Criteria
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
- It is stable.
- No edit wars etc.:
- It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
- a (tagged and captioned): b (Is illustrated with appropriate images): c (non-free images have fair use rationales): d public domain pictures appropriately demonstrate why they are public domain:
- Discussed above, no images currently available that can be used due to copyright issues. AustralianRupert (talk) 03:38, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Overall:
- a Pass/Fail: