Talk:Jeanne Fleming

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See comments below and here at Jeanne Fleming post for comments by a person identifying herself as Jeanne Fleming. She describes her role by saying "I designed and produced the Harbor Festival 1986 The Official Land Celebration for the Centennial of the Statue of Liberty" and explains its importance.

I was originally puzzled/skeptical because the description seemed to suggest that there was a single large event which she was responsible for organizing, whereas the New York Times described an event credited to David L. Wolper. There were in fact two events, with the Times giving heavy coverage to Wolper's. Dpbsmith (talk) 01:00, 18 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

My original remarks

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David L. Wolper organized the three-day event, as recorded by

Geist, William E. (1986): About New York; from Jellybeans to Wigs, Liberty Season Is On.The New York Times, July 18, 1896, section B, page 3: "William L. Fugazy, chairman of the State Statue of Liberty Centennial Commission..." "David L. Wolper, executive producer of Liberty Weekend..."

It's not at all clear exactly what she did for the event. The previous wording said:

created the Statue of Liberty Centennial in New York harbor

But search of The New York Times from 1984 to 1986 turns up only two mentions, one in reference to the Halloween parade, and another:

Pareles, Jon (1986) "Over July 4th Weekend, A World of Folk Music," The New York Times May 26, 1986, p. 10

which refers to "The Harbor Festival Fair, not connected to Liberty Weekend '86, will offer theater, ethnic food... its artistic director, Jeanne Fleming..."

Dpbsmith (talk) 15:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Jeanne Fleming's clarification

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Dear Folks,

I am not sure why this discussion started, but I, Jeane Fleming would like to clarify the situation. I designed and produced the Harbor Festival 1986 The Official Land Celebration for the Centennial of the Statue of Liberty. David Wolper produced Liberty Weekend, which was primarily a television event. What I did was the Public Celebration that the millions of people came to; Wolper produced the televised event that was a ticketed event on Governor's Island and at the Meadowlands in New Jersey. There were three parts to the event--Harbor Festival (the public land event); Liberty Weekend, the television and ticketed event; and Op Sail, the water event. I hope this helps to clear up any confusion !

Jeanne

She left a similar note on my Talk page, adding some details to what she mentioned here:
"I produced the Land celebration--that is the celebration for the millions of general public in Lower Manhattan that involved 12 stages, 7 parades daily, an ethnic food festival, authentic performers from all over the world and across the nation and many, many other things! Then, there was Op Sail, which was the water event. The Fireworks were done by Tommy Walker of Disney with several different fireworks companies."
Dpbsmith (talk) 00:31, 7 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Attempted peacock cleanup... I'm feeling dizzy.

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Goodness gracious, great balls of grandiosity. I set out to clean the peacocks, weasels, and other promotional language out of this article. I think I've succeeded enough to warrant removal of the peacock template. If you find anything else, bring it to my attention here or just remove it yourself.

I want to retain a kind and neutral tone as much as possible, but holy crap... If you're writing an article and find yourself using semicolons as some kind of super-comma to try and organize your gargantuan, convoluted lists, just make a bulleted list! I had the thought that I might try and clean this mess up by doing so myself, but I just can't bear to churn through this thing any more. I removed the semicolons and tried to shuffle around commas and quote marks enough to reduce the complexity of the proprietary list structure imposed by the initial author of this leviathan.

To anyone else who dips their toes in this article, I hope it has mercy on you. Godspeed. Skeletor3000 (talk) 23:12, 12 November 2019 (UTC)Reply