Talk:Jill Stein 2024 presidential campaign
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Summarizing spoiler criticism in the lead (updated)
editI think we should summarize the notable spoiler criticism in one or two sentences
Withdrawing request for now pending better sources Superb Owl (talk) 17:44, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- This includes mention of the Russia controversies from 2016 as they are still being referenced in current (2024) coverage of Stein as a current critique Superb Owl (talk) 16:23, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- It is mentioned in the lead so should be included in some form in the article body. We could include it along with Stein's statements about Democrats trying "to sue us off multiple state ballots" to cheat and "change the rules to maintain their grip on power" and her criticism of the two main candidates that "Americans are not voting for a candidate they like... They're generally voting against the candidate they hate the most".
- What events from 2016 do you think are relevant to this campaign? Burrobert (talk) 07:43, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
The event I had cited from a 2024 AP article was in 2015/2016 but it was phrased as current criticism (not past criticism).
The current article was reverted manually without explanation by an anonymous user, hence the confusion here. I will hold off on any suggestions until this gets sorted and the unsourced material is removed. I am going to remove the BBC article because it seems out of date and would rather use something better if we are going to dive into creating a 'Reception' section Superb Owl (talk) 07:47, 29 August 2024 (UTC)- Right-ho. Burrobert (talk) 08:22, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Totals on ballot access all wrong
edit| States (& DC) | 51 | 41 (42) | 45 (46) | 47 (48) | 45 (46) | 48 (49) | 43 (44) | 47 (48) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Electoral Votes | 538 | 468 (468) | 511 (514) | 519 (522) | 486 (489) | 525 (528) | 486 (489) | 510 (513) |
These numbers are all wrong. the top row adds one to each and the bottom 3. I believe it suppsoed to be the numbers of states on the ballot with the total including write ins in the brackets but im not even sure. I dont think there is a common standard applied in other similar articles. Eleutherius (talk) 16:11, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Fan POV Reception section
editI flagged the reception section after removal of anything not positive about Stein
I propose adding:
1) see also to Green Party of the United States#Criticism and controversies
2) other notable criticisms of the campaign as they arise in WP:RS
3) Discussion of Uncommitted not recommending a vote for Stein and opposing Trump, if removed from polling section Superb Owl (talk) 21:08, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- The tag you added made no sense and has been removed. Look at Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign as a guide. There is no criticism section. There is no reception section. The word criticism does not even appear. This is because no every criticism of a candidate is encyclopedic.--User:Namiba 21:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- I see your point - I just assumed that was because that article is too long to have a reception section Superb Owl (talk) 21:40, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Do not revert edit stating Stein was endorsed by David Duke.
editShe was. It is not vandalism. NesserWiki (talk) 21:42, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure it should be included. Duke is a very marginal figure in 2024 politics and I don't see it being reported widely in reliable sources as required in Wikipedia:Political_endorsements. Obviously, partisan opponents of Stein will make use of it but I'm not certain it belongs in an encyclopedia.--User:Namiba 22:04, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- NBC News reported on it.
- So are most of the people who have endorsed Stein NesserWiki (talk) 22:12, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Here's a link to the NBC News article: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna175178 NesserWiki (talk) 22:13, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure it should be included. Duke is a very marginal figure in 2024 politics and I don't see it being reported widely in reliable sources as required in Wikipedia:Political_endorsements. Obviously, partisan opponents of Stein will make use of it but I'm not certain it belongs in an encyclopedia.--User:Namiba 22:04, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Duke DID endorse her, but she not only rejected that endorsement but pretty much told him (and those like him) what to go do with themselves, lol. Captain Bipto (talk) 04:41, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Ballot access
editAn updated ballot access map can be found here and should be added!
Ballot Access Map - Jill Stein 2024 ASLV (talk) 22:13, 22 October 2024 (UTC)