Talk:Jillian Michaels

Martial arts

Why does "Akarui-Do" link to Chinese martial arts? It sure looks Japanese to me, and the Chinese MA page has no mention of Akarui-Do. --66.81.125.120 04:49, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't know, but Mr 204.85.194.204 is an idiot for making that edit. -- 76.229.132.118 (talk) 08:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

btw, "Robert [David Margolin] created a hybrid style, a mix of aikido and Muay Thai called Akarui-Do" ( http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30072993/page/2/ ). -- 76.229.132.118 (talk) 08:34, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I removed the entire sentence since it was unsourced. Someone can add it back if specific sources can be provided. Thanks! Plastikspork (talk) 15:31, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Robert David Margolin WAS Jillian's martial arts teacher. And she got a black belt in Akarui Do. She continued to study in other styles, but that is what she achieved her black belt in. She trained with him from 12 years old to 21 and it's well documented in pretty much every interview she has done as a public figure. 75.84.218.91 (talk) 00:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

there isn't a single return on any search engine that mentions this so-called martial art that isn't quoting michael's self written bio. is some guy giving her a black colored belt really a "black belt" by any objective standard? how are we not all black belts by this standard? Wiki standards are very strict on certain objective data and very accommodating on other subjective data.

Advertisement?

This reads like an advertisement and should be edited or deleted.

-Seconded 69.121.207.21 (talk) 03:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

why, there can't be an entry on a celebrity??? it's not as if wikipedia is a serious reference. this is wikipedia at its best...obscure information on a famous hot chick. What should be removed from wikipedia is the attempts at being a serious reference that end in failure, like the hawaii entry that talks about how the validity of its statehood is supposedly in question. ((eye roll)) I still want to know if myspace.com/jillianmichaels is really her?96.238.218.113 (talk) 23:59, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Junk e-mail ??

Most web sites are on shared servers - it may have been one of the other sites on the same IP that was the source of the spam. Just flagging the IP # seems unfair without some evidence that her web site was the source (i.e. what was in the spam?). For example, http://www.shosexualhealing.com/ is on the same IP... The referenced alt.abuse posting was Feb 2007, and the intermediary domain name seems to have been inactive for some time. I'm not a fan of Jillian, but I do like accusations to be documented... Samatva (talk) 18:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

DVDs

her DVD set could be added to this article. Peter 12:29, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

remember, that wikipedia is not an advertising board, so it's not important! Markthemac (talk) 20:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

myspace?

Is www.myspace.com/jillianmichaels an official site of her??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.116.105.187 (talk) 05:28, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

"fitness expert"?

What are her professional and academic qualifications to be labeled a fitness expert? There is nothing on her website about any professional training in medicine, physiology or psychology and none of her publications are peer-reviewed. There is no mention of any college degree. She is undoubtedly an author of popular fitness books, but that is not a standard to be considered an expert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.166.74.48 (talk) 04:42, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

She holds FOUR certifications in fitness. Owned a sports medicine facility. Did continuing education programs for AFAA when they were certifying trainers. https://www.afaa.com/courses/jillian-michaels-ceu-corner-mind-body-fitness

Diet pills

Shouldn't something be said about this: http://www.jillianweightloss.com/?cid=09TI11PS16G&s_kwcid=TC%7C16176%7Cjillian%20michaels%7C%7CS%7Ce%7C4244458200 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.189.96.81 (talk) 20:37, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Seems that website is too old now and the link doesn't work. She has a new website now. Her views also may have changed since 2010 2405:9800:BC31:E3E0:2166:6DB7:D210:E0E5 (talk) 02:27, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Personal Life

OK everyone - until the information that has been repeatedly added and removed can be corroborated by a reliable source (and I'm not talking about Perez Hilton) - can we please stop re-adding it? Michaels herself has not made a statement regarding who she is or is not dating or living with, and per WP:BLP and WP:GRAPEVINE, statements that could be considered libelous must be left out of articles unless they can be sourced. Petitscel (talk) 03:53, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

And, now semi-protected for 3 months. Please discuss here, rather than engaging in WP:BLP violations. Thank you! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 19:50, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

She is probably bisexual. Is this a good source? Yellowneonbrains (talk) 00:16, 24 April 2010 (UTC) Please add that she is admittedly bisexual http://current.com/18o8g4c

She is gay and has identified repeatedly as gay, most recently on The Megan Kelly Show, episode 558 dated May 26 2023 so there is no ambiguity whatsoever. Campfool 01:31, 26 May 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roysatx (talk • contribs)

Notability?

Is this person notable enough for an encyclopedia? --UnicornTapestry (talk) 04:06, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

• Very much so. She's a pretty major TV star in the United States. Haikupoet (talk) 16:38, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Birth date

The reason for removing the birth date falls under Wikipedia policy. First of all, Wikipedia disallows IMDb — which consists of often wildly incorrect, user-submitted content — as a reference source, including for birth dates. Secondly, once an inaccurate or unconfirmed birth date gets into Wikipedia, it starts to get disseminated and eventually a reliable journalistic source is going to get fooled, publish it, and then that inaccurate or unconfirmed date will get the imprimatur of an RS. Having someone's age and birth date be correct is extremely important from the basic biographical point of view. That's why the policy at Biographies of Living Persons allows for immediate removal of uncited personal claims. --Tenebrae (talk) 22:29, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Nutrition Qualifications?

It states that she has a certification "with the AFPA in nutrition and wellness", however, the cited link does not make any mention of such a qualification. The linked reference includes her two fitness certifications, and nothing else. Specifically:

Since 1993, Jillian has held two personal training certificates from the leading certification programs in the country: the National Exercise & Sports Trainers Association (NESTA) and the American Fitness Association of America (AFAA). In addition she is Kettlebell Concepts certified. Jillian has also developed a continuing education series for trainers with AFAA. - this claim should be deleted. Dragonchilde (talk) 20:44, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

References

Birth name/ family/ marriage

I have tried changing Jillians info before and it would not be accepted. According to wikipedia Jillian was born on Feb 18, 1974 in Califonia to a mother named Joann McKarus. Here is info I found on Ancestry.com. According to ancestry.com California Birth Index, 1905-1995. Jillian L Mckarus was born on 18 Feb 1974 in Los Angeles County to a mother with the maiden name Saldi. On ancestry.com California Divorce Index 1966-1984 Douglas G Mckarus divorced Joann Saldi in March 1977 in Los Angeles County. Also on ancestry.com Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005 Jillian Leigh McKarus of California married David William Ross of California on 13 Jul 2002 in Clark County. On ancestry.com Nevada Divorce Index 1968-2005 Jillian L McKarus divorced David W Ross on 5 May 2003 in Clark County. So Jillian Michaels was born as Jillian Leigh McKarus to Douglas G. McKarus and Joann Saldi on Feb 18, 1974 in Los Angeles County, California. She married a man named David William Ross on July 13, 2002 in Clark County, Nevada and divorced him on May 5th, 2003. Can this all please be added to Wikipedia now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.19.187.58 (talk) 22:41, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Personal trainer?!?

In what way is JM a personal trainer? She has never met, still less interviewed or examined, the people she wants to sell her stuff to, it's pushed to the world at large. TV personality seems to me to be a far more accurate designation. Awien (talk) 16:57, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Her TV work flowed from her personal trainer work; not to say that it shouldn't be changed, but the current disambig is not illogical or unreasonable. 331dot (talk) 17:00, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Break with The Biggest Loser

Should there not be a mention of her criticism of the show she is most famous for? http://nypost.com/2015/01/18/contestant-reveals-the-brutal-secrets-of-the-biggest-loser/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.99.133.32 (talk) 01:27, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 13 February 2015

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The result of the move request was: Move. The dab page will be deleted Cúchullain ^t/c 14:00, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

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• Jillian Michaels (personal trainer) → Jillian Michaels
• Jillian Michaels → Jillian Michaels (disambiguation)

– The personal trainer seems far more notable than the voice actress, so actually there's no need for a disambiguation page. Unreal7 (talk) 14:21, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

• If the article is moved, delete the DAB page and use a hatnote per WP:TWODABS. —  AjaxSmack  02:09, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

  Agree. Andrewa (talk) 17:49, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose since largely known as Jillian (personal trainer) the surname isn't so recognizable. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:28, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't follow. Unreal7 (talk) 13:15, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

I think this is an important point, but wouldn't it be better resolved by moving the article as proposed (leaving a redirect), and creating a new redirect at Jillian (personal trainer)? Andrewa (talk) 17:45, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

• Support move to Jillian Michaels. She's hugely famous. I've never heard of the anime voice-over actress. Jillian Michaels (the personal trainer) is the primary subject of Jillian Michaels. Wikimandia (talk) 03:45, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
• Support. She is far and away the primary topic. Forcing readers looking for this article to navigate through a DAB page does them a disservice. -- Calidum 16:04, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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WP:CAT/EGRS#Disability, medical, or psychological conditions

I removed this page from Category:People with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder because the current sources do not support that ADHD is WP:DEFINING for the subject, but it was reverted. I didn't remove it from the body of the article, because the sources seemed to indicate that it's potentially verifiable and noteworthy, but not defining. CAT/EGRS says, "People with these conditions should not be added to subcategories of Category:People with disabilities or Category:People by medical or psychological condition unless that condition is considered WP:DEFINING for that individual. For example, there may be people who have a speech impediment, but if reliable sources don't regularly describe the person as having that characteristic, they should not be added to the category." Is it even debatable that ADHD is defining for this subject? It seems pretty clear to me that it’s not. PermStrump(talk) 15:57, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

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